Dinner ideas?

Playrite1 · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 1

Breakfast is easy, lunch not too hard, but supper! I am getting tired of
eating potatoes and rice every week. I am allergic to nuts, so cannot do that.

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Jennifer · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 64

What kind of eating plan are you following?

It's obviously not low carb because of the rice and potatoes... is it
the ADA plan? Pyramid? Carb counting? Something other?

Give us more info and we'll give you dinner ideas ; )

Jennifer

Playrite1 wrote:
> Breakfast is easy, lunch not too hard, but supper! I am getting tired of
> eating potatoes and rice every week. I am allergic to nuts, so cannot do that.
>

Julie Bove · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 106

"Playrite1" wrote in message@mb-m21.aol.com...
> Breakfast is easy, lunch not too hard, but supper! I am getting tired of
> eating potatoes and rice every week. I am allergic to nuts, so cannot do
that.

I can do potatoes, but not rice unless it's a really limited portion. What
kind of diet are you on?

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

COcon28932 · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 1

The ADA, thank you!

Sushi-Boy · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 7

I seen you follow the ADA plan. so here is a recipe from their page

and

the serving size below is only 7gms of carb. so what *I* would do is add

15 carbs of whole grain rye cracker,rice,potato whole wheat pita. ect

and it says you get 1/2 cup of sauce that i would pour on the rice or what ever.

15 carb of fruit after and that would give me 37 carb meal.

i usually try to have 5 meals a day of 40 carbs. 200 carbs daily.

This recipe is from Cooking with the Diabetic Chef , published by the American Diabetes Association, the first cookbook ever written
for people with diabetes by a chef with diabetes! Chris Smith is living proof you can eat the foods you love and live healthy with
diabetes. Pizza, chocolate, butter, burritos, sausage, veal roast, stir fry - there's virtually nothing you can't have and it all
tastes great!

You can order a copy of this and many other cookbooks from our online bookstore or call 1-800-ADA-ORDER (1-800-232-6733). Veal
Scaloppini

Veal Scaloppini

Number of Servings: 4

Serving Size: 1 cutlet with 1/2 cup sauce

Ingredients

Name Measure Weight

veal cutlets(4-oz.) 4 ea ---

all-purpose flour 1/2 cup ---

salt 1 tsp ---

black pepper 1 tsp ---

olive oil 2 Tbsp ---

white wine 1 cup ---

chopped plum tomatoes 1 1/2 cups ---

capers 1 Tbsp ---

chopped fresh parsley 1 Tbsp ---

Preparation Instructions

1 If the veal cutlets are not already pounded thin, use a mallet or meat tenderizer to do it yourself. Place the flour, salt, and
pepper in a separate, shallow bowl, then dredge the veal cutlets until they are thoroughly coated.

2 Heat the olive oil in a pan over medium heat. Add the veal. When one side is browned, turn the veal over and brown the remaining
side. Once both sides are browned, remove the veal from the pan and pat dry with paper towels to remove some of the excess fat.

3 Add white wine to the pan and bring it to a simmer. Allow the liquid to reduce by half. Add the chopped tomatoes and return the
liquid to a simmer. Add the capers and simmer for 5 minutes. Add the veal and cook just until it is reheated. Serve immediately and
garnish with the chopped parsley.

Exchanges Per Serving

4-1/2 Very Lean Meat

2 Fat

1 Vegetable

Nutrition Information

Amount per serving

Calories 284

Calories From Fat 99

Total Fat 11 g

Saturated Fat 2 g

Cholesterol 95 mg

Sodium 865 mg

Total Carbohydrate 7 g

Dietary Fiber 1 g

Sugars 2 g

Protein 31 g

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please keep in mind that not all the recipes presented here are necessarily appropriate for all people with diabetes or that all the
recipes will fit into every meal plan. No two meal plans are alike. Work with your health care provider, diabetes educator or
dietitian to design your very own meal plan that's right for you and includes the foods you love. A key message for people with
diabetes is "Carbs Count." Foods high in carbs (carbohydrates) - bread, tortillas, rice, crackers, cereal, fruit, juice, milk,
yogurt, potatoes, corn, peas, sweets - raise your blood sugar levels the most.

For many people, having 3 or 4 servings of a carb choice at each meal and 1 or 2 servings at snacks is about right. Remember to keep
an eye on your total number of servings. For example, if you choose to have dessert, cut back on potatoes.

Round out your meals with a serving of:

Meat (such as fish or chicken) or meat substitute (such as beans, eggs, cheese, and tofu) about the size of a deck of cards and

Vegetables (such as broccoli or lettuce). There's no limit on vegetables that are raw or made without fat.

Check your blood sugar to see how your food choices or these recipes affect your blood sugar. If your meal plan isn't working for
you, talk to your dietitian about making a new one.

Along with exercise and medications (insulin or oral diabetes pills), nutrition is important for good diabetes control. By eating
well-balanced meals in the correct amounts, you can keep your blood glucose level as close to normal (non-diabetes level) as
possible.

The recipes on this page are just a part of what is offered in recipe books from the American Diabetes Association. Many also
include information on meal planning, portion control, food buying and seasoning as well as general cooking hints and tips for
people with diabetes.

here is a link to the American Diabetes Associations web site.

--

--
http://www.diabetes.org
Sushi-Boy
Type - 2
Dx'd January 27, 2003
also try
alt.support.diabetes.uk
misc.health.diabetes

"COcon28932" wrote in message @mb-m26.aol.com...
: The ADA, thank you!

Sushi-Boy · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 7

actually i am pretty surprised the ada would recommend this recipe.
i would expect this more on a high fat and or protein diet.
will i eat it? hell yea. but not part of a regular diet.
doesn't it look like a high fat and or protein recipe?
if the ada does not recommend a certain type of diet
would it recommend a recipe that fits into a non ada recommended diet?
lol i don't know maybe im wrong... it just don't seem like the diet i am on.
to eat 45gms carb of this lol o boy what a treat.
or maybe even though it has flower already am i supposed to still
ad more carbs to fill up my 40 carb meal? lol something just don't seem right
to me. who posted that recipe anyway...
o i did.. never mind.

--
http://www.diabetes.org
Sushi-Boy
Type - 2
Dx'd January 27, 2003
also try
alt.support.diabetes.uk
misc.health.diabetes
"Sushi-Boy" wrote in message @nntp.acecape.com...
: I seen you follow the ADA plan. so here is a recipe from their page
:
: and
:
: the serving size below is only 7gms of carb. so what *I* would do is add
:
: 15 carbs of whole grain rye cracker,rice,potato whole wheat pita. ect
:
: and it says you get 1/2 cup of sauce that i would pour on the rice or what ever.
:
: 15 carb of fruit after and that would give me 37 carb meal.
:
: i usually try to have 5 meals a day of 40 carbs. 200 carbs daily.
:
:
:
:
:
: This recipe is from Cooking with the Diabetic Chef , published by the American Diabetes Association, the first cookbook ever
written
: for people with diabetes by a chef with diabetes! Chris Smith is living proof you can eat the foods you love and live healthy with
: diabetes. Pizza, chocolate, butter, burritos, sausage, veal roast, stir fry - there's virtually nothing you can't have and it all
: tastes great!
:
: You can order a copy of this and many other cookbooks from our online bookstore or call 1-800-ADA-ORDER (1-800-232-6733). Veal
: Scaloppini
:
: Veal Scaloppini
:
: Number of Servings: 4
:
: Serving Size: 1 cutlet with 1/2 cup sauce
:
:
:
: Ingredients
:
: Name Measure Weight
:
: veal cutlets(4-oz.) 4 ea ---
:
: all-purpose flour 1/2 cup ---
:
: salt 1 tsp ---
:
: black pepper 1 tsp ---
:
: olive oil 2 Tbsp ---
:
: white wine 1 cup ---
:
: chopped plum tomatoes 1 1/2 cups ---
:
: capers 1 Tbsp ---
:
: chopped fresh parsley 1 Tbsp ---
:
:
:
: Preparation Instructions
:
: 1 If the veal cutlets are not already pounded thin, use a mallet or meat tenderizer to do it yourself. Place the flour, salt, and
: pepper in a separate, shallow bowl, then dredge the veal cutlets until they are thoroughly coated.
:
: 2 Heat the olive oil in a pan over medium heat. Add the veal. When one side is browned, turn the veal over and brown the
remaining
: side. Once both sides are browned, remove the veal from the pan and pat dry with paper towels to remove some of the excess fat.
:
: 3 Add white wine to the pan and bring it to a simmer. Allow the liquid to reduce by half. Add the chopped tomatoes and return the
: liquid to a simmer. Add the capers and simmer for 5 minutes. Add the veal and cook just until it is reheated. Serve immediately
and
: garnish with the chopped parsley.
:
:
:
: Exchanges Per Serving
:
:
:
:
:
: 4-1/2 Very Lean Meat
:
: 2 Fat
:
: 1 Vegetable
:
:
:
: Nutrition Information
:
:
:
:
:
: Amount per serving
:
: Calories 284
:
: Calories From Fat 99
:
: Total Fat 11 g
:
: Saturated Fat 2 g
:
: Cholesterol 95 mg
:
: Sodium 865 mg
:
: Total Carbohydrate 7 g
:
: Dietary Fiber 1 g
:
: Sugars 2 g
:
: Protein 31 g
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:
:
:
: Please keep in mind that not all the recipes presented here are necessarily appropriate for all people with diabetes or that all
the
: recipes will fit into every meal plan. No two meal plans are alike. Work with your health care provider, diabetes educator or
: dietitian to design your very own meal plan that's right for you and includes the foods you love. A key message for people with
: diabetes is "Carbs Count." Foods high in carbs (carbohydrates) - bread, tortillas, rice, crackers, cereal, fruit, juice, milk,
: yogurt, potatoes, corn, peas, sweets - raise your blood sugar levels the most.
:
:
:
: For many people, having 3 or 4 servings of a carb choice at each meal and 1 or 2 servings at snacks is about right. Remember to
keep
: an eye on your total number of servings. For example, if you choose to have dessert, cut back on potatoes.
:
:
:
: Round out your meals with a serving of:
:
:
:
: Meat (such as fish or chicken) or meat substitute (such as beans, eggs, cheese, and tofu) about the size of a deck of cards and
:
: Vegetables (such as broccoli or lettuce). There's no limit on vegetables that are raw or made without fat.
:
: Check your blood sugar to see how your food choices or these recipes affect your blood sugar. If your meal plan isn't working for
: you, talk to your dietitian about making a new one.
:
:
:
: Along with exercise and medications (insulin or oral diabetes pills), nutrition is important for good diabetes control. By eating
: well-balanced meals in the correct amounts, you can keep your blood glucose level as close to normal (non-diabetes level) as
: possible.
:
:
:
: The recipes on this page are just a part of what is offered in recipe books from the American Diabetes Association. Many also
: include information on meal planning, portion control, food buying and seasoning as well as general cooking hints and tips for
: people with diabetes.
:
:
:
: here is a link to the American Diabetes Associations web site.
:
: --
:
: --
: http://www.diabetes.org
: Sushi-Boy
: Type - 2
: Dx'd January 27, 2003
: also try
: alt.support.diabetes.uk
: misc.health.diabetes
:
: "COcon28932" wrote in message @mb-m26.aol.com...
: : The ADA, thank you!
:
:

Julie Bove · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 106

"Sushi-Boy" wrote in message@nntp.acecape.com...
> actually i am pretty surprised the ada would recommend this recipe.
> i would expect this more on a high fat and or protein diet.
> will i eat it? hell yea. but not part of a regular diet.
> doesn't it look like a high fat and or protein recipe?
> if the ada does not recommend a certain type of diet
> would it recommend a recipe that fits into a non ada recommended diet?
> lol i don't know maybe im wrong... it just don't seem like the diet i am
on.
> to eat 45gms carb of this lol o boy what a treat.
> or maybe even though it has flower already am i supposed to still
> ad more carbs to fill up my 40 carb meal? lol something just don't seem
right
> to me. who posted that recipe anyway...
> o i did.. never mind.

The problem is that there is no one diet that we all follow. You and I are
both on the ADA plan and yet I think you eat more calories, and I know you
eat more carbs than me. This recipe wouldn't work for me even if I did eat
veal. Most of the recipes I've seen in ADA cookbooks wouldn't work for me.
I've actually had better luck with regular recipes from regular cookbooks
that list the nutritional breakdown than I have with the ADA recipes. Go
figure!

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

Proconsul · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 5

Your experience mirrors that of most "successful" people in re both losing
weight and managing diabetes.....

The ADA's view of low-fat, low-protein, high carb eating will almost
certainly cause most people to become ravenously hungry weight gainers with
every increasing blood sugar levels..... Sad

I ate "their" diet for one day as
prescribed by the ADA nutritionist and as advised by the diabetic nurses -
by BS went up 150 points. Their advice? Have your doctor increase your meds.
I fired them and never looked back - their "treatment" is, IMO, deadly and
to be avoided at all costs....

Low carbing results in weight loss, much lower BS levels and MUCH better
cholesterol and triglyceride levels. This is due mainly to the fact that
cholesterol is manufactured in the body as a byproduct of metabolizing
carbohydrates. Lower carbs and cholesterol almost always improves....

You broke the code better than most people - hope your good results continue
and you manage your disease without additional meds, etc....

PC

"Siobhan Perricone" wrote in message@4ax.com...
| On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:20:01 -0400, "Julie Bove"
| wrote:
|
| >The problem is that there is no one diet that we all follow. You and I
are
|
| I don't follow a "diet" at all. Smile

Not on any "food plan" or any such, I
| just eat to my glucose numbers (My A1c was 6.1 six months after diagnosis
| and I've never been on meds at all).
|
| >both on the ADA plan and yet I think you eat more calories, and I know
you
| >eat more carbs than me. This recipe wouldn't work for me even if I did
eat
| >veal. Most of the recipes I've seen in ADA cookbooks wouldn't work for
me.
| >I've actually had better luck with regular recipes from regular cookbooks
| >that list the nutritional breakdown than I have with the ADA recipes. Go
| >figure!
|
| I don't pay any attention to where a recipe comes from, I just count
carbs.
| My experience (which is andecdotal, of course) has been pretty different
| from what the ADA has claimed I'd experience.
|
| I've had cholesterol problems nearly all of my adult life. Two years ago
I
| went on meds for cholesterol after about 8 years of struggling to control
| it through dietary changes, but every time I went through months of
| depriving myself of fats or replacing with monounsaturated fats, my
| cholesterol went *up* not down. I wasn't exercising much, but I *was*
| eating "right" according to what I was told (bear with me, it's pertinent
| to this discussion). I could never get a grip on my cholesterol. So I
went
| on the meds and had some improvement (brought me to just below the high
end
| of normal), and I remained there for about two years.
|
| Then I got diagnosed with diabetes three months after my husband was
| diagnosed. We'd already been making changes in our eating habits for his
| sake. I just started having to watch my own carb intake more closely.
|
| My doctor and nutritionist both cautioned us to continue eating low fat
and
| not "overdo it on protein" because one of the increased risks is heart
| disease. But the change to low carb was all I was ready to deal with off
| the bat, I'd work on the rest if my cholesterol went up.
|
| So we started eating high protein meals (making meat the center of our
| meals instead of filling up on carbs) of steak, chicken, fish (well I like
| fish, my husband hates it), pork, all without any regard to the fat. We
| didn't stint on the cheese, either. In fact, one of my more common
| breakfasts (I still have higher readings in the morning than I like) is
| just a few slices of cheese. We also increased our salad consumption, but
| the primary increase for us was in protein. We now eat around 100 carbs,
| total (each), in a day.
|
| In the three months between March 5 and June 3 my triglicerides dropped
| from 146 to 88, HDL dropped from 50 to 48, LDL dropped from 110 to 98, and
| my total cholesterol dropped from 189 to 164.
|
| The only changes I've made are these: I now take a 10 minute walk within
an
| hour and a half after every meal, I eat less than 10 carbs for breakfast,
| between 20 and 40 carbs for lunch, and between 30 and 60 carbs for dinner.
| That's all the attention I pay to what I'm eating other than noting that
| some carbs impact me more in the morning than they do at night.
|
| This is what my husband's done, as well (except he's now gotten up to
| walking half an hour after each meal, his endurance is better than mine).
| His A1c was 5.4 in June (he was diagnosed with an A1c of 12.3 in Oct
2002),
| he went off his meds in May and has been off ever since.
|
| So, no, I don't follow the food plan suggested by my nutritionist, or
| pretty much anything recommended by the ADA because I'd still be
struggling
| to get my numbers down if I did that. Their meals have way too many carbs
| in them for me.
|
| --
| Siobhan Perricone
| One trend that bothers me is the glorification of
| stupidity, that the media is reassuring people it's
| all right not to know anything.... That to me is
| far more dangerous than a little pornography
| on the Internet. - Carl Sagan

Sushi-Boy · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 7

"Julie Bove" wrote in message @corp.supernews.com...
:
:
:
:
: "Sushi-Boy" wrote in message
: @nntp.acecape.com...
: > actually i am pretty surprised the ada would recommend this recipe.
: > i would expect this more on a high fat and or protein diet.
: > will i eat it? hell yea. but not part of a regular diet.
: > doesn't it look like a high fat and or protein recipe?
: > if the ada does not recommend a certain type of diet
: > would it recommend a recipe that fits into a non ada recommended diet?
: > lol i don't know maybe im wrong... it just don't seem like the diet i am
: on.
: > to eat 45gms carb of this lol o boy what a treat.
: > or maybe even though it has flower already am i supposed to still
: > ad more carbs to fill up my 40 carb meal? lol something just don't seem
: right
: > to me. who posted that recipe anyway...
: > o i did.. never mind.
:
: The problem is that there is no one diet that we all follow.

understood.

You and I are
: both on the ADA plan and yet I think you eat more calories, and I know you
: eat more carbs than me.

im suposed to have 200 carbs a day. lately i have been having
lol a bit more.

This recipe wouldn't work for me even if I did eat
: veal.

but what suprises me about this recipe. is that it does not
follow the diabetic food pyramid recommended by the ADA.
it is much higher in fat and protien. what confuses me is how would i
convert it to be in my diet? even tho it has flower can i ad rice to
fill my allowed carb intake for each meal? i am not saying
this recipe is wrong or anything but i think if they are going to post
recipes they should make them fit into the pyramid even tho
from time to time some may be able to stray from the reg diet.
if they posted recipes that fit into their food pyramid ( i think
it would be able to be adjusted to fit into more people following
their food pyramid diet.)

Most of the recipes I've seen in ADA cookbooks wouldn't work for me.

would they be able to work if they were based on the ADA recommended
food pyramid.

: I've actually had better luck with regular recipes from regular cookbooks

i have not seen many diabetic recipes but i would agree for me a reg cookbook
would be better.

: that list the nutritional breakdown than I have with the ADA recipes. Go
: figure!

in a way i really am shocked at that recipe. i would thing if they openly
post a free sample of a recipe it would be more health concous and versitile.
i wouldnt mind finding this recipe in a book but i think people who are
going to the ada web site are looking for some health concous more versitile
recipes. but it also does give hope to those new to diabetes that they still
can eat very tastey dishes. lol just not as much.
when talking about the ADA recommened food pyramid i always add ada
because i have seen other food pyramids that the ada does not recommend.
Sushi-Boy
:
: --
: Type 2
: http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
:
:

Siobhan Perricone · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 4

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:20:01 -0400, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

>The problem is that there is no one diet that we all follow. You and I are

I don't follow a "diet" at all. Smile

Not on any "food plan" or any such, I
just eat to my glucose numbers (My A1c was 6.1 six months after diagnosis
and I've never been on meds at all).

>both on the ADA plan and yet I think you eat more calories, and I know you
>eat more carbs than me. This recipe wouldn't work for me even if I did eat
>veal. Most of the recipes I've seen in ADA cookbooks wouldn't work for me.
>I've actually had better luck with regular recipes from regular cookbooks
>that list the nutritional breakdown than I have with the ADA recipes. Go
>figure!

I don't pay any attention to where a recipe comes from, I just count carbs.
My experience (which is andecdotal, of course) has been pretty different
from what the ADA has claimed I'd experience.

I've had cholesterol problems nearly all of my adult life. Two years ago I
went on meds for cholesterol after about 8 years of struggling to control
it through dietary changes, but every time I went through months of
depriving myself of fats or replacing with monounsaturated fats, my
cholesterol went *up* not down. I wasn't exercising much, but I *was*
eating "right" according to what I was told (bear with me, it's pertinent
to this discussion). I could never get a grip on my cholesterol. So I went
on the meds and had some improvement (brought me to just below the high end
of normal), and I remained there for about two years.

Then I got diagnosed with diabetes three months after my husband was
diagnosed. We'd already been making changes in our eating habits for his
sake. I just started having to watch my own carb intake more closely.

My doctor and nutritionist both cautioned us to continue eating low fat and
not "overdo it on protein" because one of the increased risks is heart
disease. But the change to low carb was all I was ready to deal with off
the bat, I'd work on the rest if my cholesterol went up.

So we started eating high protein meals (making meat the center of our
meals instead of filling up on carbs) of steak, chicken, fish (well I like
fish, my husband hates it), pork, all without any regard to the fat. We
didn't stint on the cheese, either. In fact, one of my more common
breakfasts (I still have higher readings in the morning than I like) is
just a few slices of cheese. We also increased our salad consumption, but
the primary increase for us was in protein. We now eat around 100 carbs,
total (each), in a day.

In the three months between March 5 and June 3 my triglicerides dropped
from 146 to 88, HDL dropped from 50 to 48, LDL dropped from 110 to 98, and
my total cholesterol dropped from 189 to 164.

The only changes I've made are these: I now take a 10 minute walk within an
hour and a half after every meal, I eat less than 10 carbs for breakfast,
between 20 and 40 carbs for lunch, and between 30 and 60 carbs for dinner.
That's all the attention I pay to what I'm eating other than noting that
some carbs impact me more in the morning than they do at night.

This is what my husband's done, as well (except he's now gotten up to
walking half an hour after each meal, his endurance is better than mine).
His A1c was 5.4 in June (he was diagnosed with an A1c of 12.3 in Oct 2002),
he went off his meds in May and has been off ever since.

So, no, I don't follow the food plan suggested by my nutritionist, or
pretty much anything recommended by the ADA because I'd still be struggling
to get my numbers down if I did that. Their meals have way too many carbs
in them for me.

--
Siobhan Perricone
One trend that bothers me is the glorification of
stupidity, that the media is reassuring people it's
all right not to know anything.... That to me is
far more dangerous than a little pornography
on the Internet. - Carl Sagan

Julie Bove · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 106

"Sushi-Boy" wrote in message@nntp.acecape.com...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message@corp.supernews.com...
> :
> :
> :
> :
> : "Sushi-Boy" wrote in message
> : @nntp.acecape.com...
> : > actually i am pretty surprised the ada would recommend this recipe.
> : > i would expect this more on a high fat and or protein diet.
> : > will i eat it? hell yea. but not part of a regular diet.
> : > doesn't it look like a high fat and or protein recipe?
> : > if the ada does not recommend a certain type of diet
> : > would it recommend a recipe that fits into a non ada recommended diet?
> : > lol i don't know maybe im wrong... it just don't seem like the diet i
am
> : on.
> : > to eat 45gms carb of this lol o boy what a treat.
> : > or maybe even though it has flower already am i supposed to still
> : > ad more carbs to fill up my 40 carb meal? lol something just don't
seem
> : right
> : > to me. who posted that recipe anyway...
> : > o i did.. never mind.
> :
> : The problem is that there is no one diet that we all follow.
>
> understood.
>
> You and I are
> : both on the ADA plan and yet I think you eat more calories, and I know
you
> : eat more carbs than me.
>
> im suposed to have 200 carbs a day. lately i have been having
> lol a bit more.
>
>
> This recipe wouldn't work for me even if I did eat
> : veal.
>
> but what suprises me about this recipe. is that it does not
> follow the diabetic food pyramid recommended by the ADA.
> it is much higher in fat and protien. what confuses me is how would i
> convert it to be in my diet? even tho it has flower can i ad rice to
> fill my allowed carb intake for each meal? i am not saying
> this recipe is wrong or anything but i think if they are going to post
> recipes they should make them fit into the pyramid even tho
> from time to time some may be able to stray from the reg diet.
> if they posted recipes that fit into their food pyramid ( i think
> it would be able to be adjusted to fit into more people following
> their food pyramid diet.)
>
>
> Most of the recipes I've seen in ADA cookbooks wouldn't work for me.
>
> would they be able to work if they were based on the ADA recommended
> food pyramid.
>
> : I've actually had better luck with regular recipes from regular
cookbooks
>
> i have not seen many diabetic recipes but i would agree for me a reg
cookbook
> would be better.
>
> : that list the nutritional breakdown than I have with the ADA recipes.
Go
> : figure!
>
>
> in a way i really am shocked at that recipe. i would thing if they openly
> post a free sample of a recipe it would be more health concous and
versitile.
> i wouldnt mind finding this recipe in a book but i think people who are
> going to the ada web site are looking for some health concous more
versitile
> recipes. but it also does give hope to those new to diabetes that they
still
> can eat very tastey dishes. lol just not as much.
> when talking about the ADA recommened food pyramid i always add ada
> because i have seen other food pyramids that the ada does not recommend.

I think the only thing the ADA pays mind to when making up recipes is that
they have a nutritional breakdown at the end. Somebody somewhere is bound
to be able to eat it. A large person who is VERY active would be allowed
more calories and subsequentially more carbs and fat. When I was pregnant,
the percentages of what I ate were different. I did eat more fat and more
protein. So this recipe might have worked for me then. Can't remember now
exactly what it said. But for dinner, I was eating 5 servings of protein
and 2 of fat.

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Sushi-Boy · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 7

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"Julie Bove" wrote in message @corp.supernews.com...
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: "Sushi-Boy" wrote in message
: @nntp.acecape.com...
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: >
: > "Julie Bove" wrote in message
: @corp.supernews.com...
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: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : "Sushi-Boy" wrote in message
: > : @nntp.acecape.com...
: > : > actually i am pretty surprised the ada would recommend this recipe.
: > : > i would expect this more on a high fat and or protein diet.
: > : > will i eat it? hell yea. but not part of a regular diet.
: > : > doesn't it look like a high fat and or protein recipe?
: > : > if the ada does not recommend a certain type of diet
: > : > would it recommend a recipe that fits into a non ada recommended diet?
: > : > lol i don't know maybe im wrong... it just don't seem like the diet i
: am
: > : on.
: > : > to eat 45gms carb of this lol o boy what a treat.
: > : > or maybe even though it has flower already am i supposed to still
: > : > ad more carbs to fill up my 40 carb meal? lol something just don't
: seem
: > : right
: > : > to me. who posted that recipe anyway...
: > : > o i did.. never mind.
: > :
: > : The problem is that there is no one diet that we all follow.
: >
: > understood.
: >
: > You and I are
: > : both on the ADA plan and yet I think you eat more calories, and I know
: you
: > : eat more carbs than me.
: >
: > im suposed to have 200 carbs a day. lately i have been having
: > lol a bit more.
: >
: >
: > This recipe wouldn't work for me even if I did eat
: > : veal.
: >
: > but what suprises me about this recipe. is that it does not
: > follow the diabetic food pyramid recommended by the ADA.
: > it is much higher in fat and protien. what confuses me is how would i
: > convert it to be in my diet? even tho it has flower can i ad rice to
: > fill my allowed carb intake for each meal? i am not saying
: > this recipe is wrong or anything but i think if they are going to post
: > recipes they should make them fit into the pyramid even tho
: > from time to time some may be able to stray from the reg diet.
: > if they posted recipes that fit into their food pyramid ( i think
: > it would be able to be adjusted to fit into more people following
: > their food pyramid diet.)
: >
: >
: > Most of the recipes I've seen in ADA cookbooks wouldn't work for me.
: >
: > would they be able to work if they were based on the ADA recommended
: > food pyramid.
: >
: > : I've actually had better luck with regular recipes from regular
: cookbooks
: >
: > i have not seen many diabetic recipes but i would agree for me a reg
: cookbook
: > would be better.
: >
: > : that list the nutritional breakdown than I have with the ADA recipes.
: Go
: > : figure!
: >
: >
: > in a way i really am shocked at that recipe. i would thing if they openly
: > post a free sample of a recipe it would be more health concous and
: versitile.
: > i wouldnt mind finding this recipe in a book but i think people who are
: > going to the ada web site are looking for some health concous more
: versitile
: > recipes. but it also does give hope to those new to diabetes that they
: still
: > can eat very tastey dishes. lol just not as much.
: > when talking about the ADA recommened food pyramid i always add ada
: > because i have seen other food pyramids that the ada does not recommend.
:
: I think the only thing the ADA pays mind to when making up recipes is that
: they have a nutritional breakdown at the end. Somebody somewhere is bound
: to be able to eat it.

o i can eat it.. it was only 7 carbs i still have a hard time believing its only 7 carbs.

A large person who is VERY active would be allowed
: more calories and subsequentially more carbs and fat. When I was pregnant,
: the percentages of what I ate were different. I did eat more fat and more
: protein. So this recipe might have worked for me then. Can't remember now
: exactly what it said. But for dinner, I was eating 5 servings of protein
: and 2 of fat.
:
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:

my second thought on this matter is that
(1 meal does not a diet make) sorry i seen star wars last night.
sure i can fit this meal in once and a while it only has 7 gm carb.
i dont know how far it will carry be before i go low sugar.
I do love veal i also understand how someone would choose not to eat
veal. my wife is a on again off again non veal eater. the only times she doesnt
eat veal is lol well according to how much i like the dish.
if i mention to her some of the things that make her not eat veal - she doesnt
if i do not mention anything she eat it. with this recipe no doubt i would remind
her of just why she dont like eating veal.
Sushi-Boy

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Damsel in dis Dress · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 1

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 07:42:04 -0700, "Proconsul" wrote:

>The ADA's view of low-fat, low-protein, high carb eating will almost
>certainly cause most people to become ravenously hungry weight gainers with
>every increasing blood sugar levels..... Sad

I ate "their" diet for one day as
>prescribed by the ADA nutritionist and as advised by the diabetic nurses -
>by BS went up 150 points. Their advice? Have your doctor increase your meds.
>I fired them and never looked back - their "treatment" is, IMO, deadly and
>to be avoided at all costs....

This was my experience, as well.

>Low carbing results in weight loss, much lower BS levels and MUCH better
>cholesterol and triglyceride levels. This is due mainly to the fact that
>cholesterol is manufactured in the body as a byproduct of metabolizing
>carbohydrates. Lower carbs and cholesterol almost always improves....

Absolutely! Since I started low-carbing in January, all of my lipid
numbers have moved in the right direction, and my A1c has gone from 6.7 to
5.0. I'm on Atkins forever!

Carol
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Glucophage XR
Low Carb Eating Plan
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