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brigmave



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Oct 7, 4:33 pm, "Cheri" wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in message ...
>
> >"Cheri" wrote in message
> >@softcom.net...
>
> >> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> >> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could
> be
> >> wrong though, and often am.
>
> >Either that or he is a very large man. I know two such. They can
> eat a lot
> >more carbs than I can. However, I'm with you and don't believe it.
>
> True, and maybe his wife is a very large woman too. Smile
>
> Cheri
For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8" tall. My
daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing) and
I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my heaviest in
my whole life. When visiting my
mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese of
the areas.
I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
butter and wine.
My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending what
country we are in at the time
I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
everything well within normal limits.
How much do you weigh and what is your height?
Brig

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Cheri



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

brigmave wrote in message

>For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8" tall.
My
>daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
and
>I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my heaviest
in
>my whole life. When visiting my
>mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese of
>the areas.
>I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
>normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
>butter and wine.
>My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending what
>country we are in at the time
>I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
>everything well within normal limits.
>How much do you weigh and what is your height?
>Brig


127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what you
weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound very
familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a different
nick.


Cheri
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Oct 7, 5:12 pm, "Cheri" wrote:
> brigmave wrote in message
> >For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8" tall.
> My
> >daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
> and
> >I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my heaviest
> in
> >my whole life. When visiting my
> >mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese of
> >the areas.
> >I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
> >normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
> >butter and wine.
> >My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending what
> >country we are in at the time
> >I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
> >everything well within normal limits.
> >How much do you weigh and what is your height?
> >Brig
>
> 127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what you
> weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
> me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound very
> familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a different
> nick.
>
> Cheri

Why is it if a person is different from you you outright reject them
or start ad hominem attacks. I came here not too long ago to gain
insight in how others practice their care for Diabetes.
In good faith I posted our way of live and practice. Within our
personal support groups we find that most people are like us and do
not have huge problems with this disease because we don't let it
become the total reason for our being.
Life is just to short to make a disease the focus of ones life.
If you don't accept what I have to say that I would suggest you not
create posts directed to me and which are very critical of my way of
life.
I am very happy with it thusfar.
Thank you and have a bright future.
Brig
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brigmave



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, "Julie Bove" wrote:
> "brigmave" wrote in message
>
> @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 7, 4:19 pm, "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >> "brigmave" wrote in message
>
> >>@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
> >> > guidelines.
> >> > You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
> >> > fact that people metabolize foods differently.
> >> > How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
> >> > laughable too?
>
> >> Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs.
> >> You
> >> seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.
>
> > That seems to your interpretation and it is faulty. Do all people
> > Diabetics or not have to follow in your footsteps to be on the right
> > road to health?
>
> WTF? I do own the HUGE Joslin book on diabetes. I know what it is. And
> nobody has to follow in my footsteps. I am trying to do a raw vegan diet.
> I doubt that would appeal to most people, but it does to me. You seem to
> know precious little about diabetes.

And for what it is worth which is not much to you people! I attended
the Joslin Diabetic Center and Clinic in Boston, MA and the Mayo
Diabetic Center in Arizona.in Scottsdale to be exact. I have returned
several time to Mayo as it is very good and presents programs that my
team approves.
So I would say I know a good deal about Diabetes.
Brig
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Oct 7, 5:23 pm, Priscilla Ballou wrote:
> In article ,
>
> "Cheri" wrote:
> > I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> > testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
> > wrong though, and often am.
>
> No-one's asked his type. I think he's type 1 on insulin, and everyone's
> assuming he's type 2.
>
> Priscilla

I am not a "he" and I am not a type to but inbetween 1 and 2 and I do
take insulin.
What do you take?
Brig
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Cheri



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

brigmave wrote in message

>I am not a "he" and I am not a type to but inbetween 1 and 2 and I do
>take insulin.
>What do you take?
>Brig


That explains a lot.

Cheri
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

brigmave wrote in message
...
>On Oct 7, 5:12 pm, "Cheri" wrote:
>> brigmave wrote in message
>> >For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8"
tall.
>> My
>> >daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
>> and
>> >I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my
heaviest
>> in
>> >my whole life. When visiting my
>> >mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese
of
>> >the areas.
>> >I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
>> >normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
>> >butter and wine.
>> >My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending
what
>> >country we are in at the time
>> >I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
>> >everything well within normal limits.
>> >How much do you weigh and what is your height?
>> >Brig
>>
>> 127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what
you
>> weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
>> me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound
very
>> familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a
different
>> nick.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Why is it if a person is different from you you outright reject them
>or start ad hominem attacks. I came here not too long ago to gain
>insight in how others practice their care for Diabetes.
>In good faith I posted our way of live and practice. Within our
>personal support groups we find that most people are like us and do
>not have huge problems with this disease because we don't let it
>become the total reason for our being.
>Life is just to short to make a disease the focus of ones life.
>If you don't accept what I have to say that I would suggest you not
>create posts directed to me and which are very critical of my way of
>life.
>I am very happy with it thusfar.
>Thank you and have a bright future.
>Brig


You should have mentioned you were using insulin when you were posting
all your meals. It explains a lot of why you can eat that way. BTW,
nobody started any ad hominen attacks, I simply said I didn't believe
you. Turns out, you are using insulin, so now I do believe your
numbers.You have a bright future too.

Cheri
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

Susan wrote in message ...
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Cheri wrote:
>
>> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
>> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could
be
>> wrong though, and often am.
>
>Troll alert.
>
>Susan

Remember that woman in ASD a few years ago that used to post her
(supposed) menus, and always said she "gorged" on this or that and
followed the ADA recommendations? Mrs. something or other, I can't
quite come up with the name, but it sounds very much like her.

Cheri
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Priscilla Ballou



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

In article ,
"Cheri" wrote:

> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
> wrong though, and often am.

No-one's asked his type. I think he's type 1 on insulin, and everyone's
assuming he's type 2.

Priscilla
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Julie Bove



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"brigmave" wrote in message @o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 7, 2:23 am, "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> "brigmave" wrote in message
>>
>> @g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
>> > lengthy discussion?
>> > Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
>> > errupting...but cauliflower?
>> > How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
>> > What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
>> > fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>> > I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
>> > elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
>> > harvest.
>> > Surely other foods are much more interesting !
>> > Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
>> > cauliflower could raise ire!
>>
>> It's not the cauliflower, it's the amount of carbs you are eating. There
>> are few of us here who could eat anywhere near 200g of carbs per day.
>> We'd
>> be in spike city!
>>
>> I rarely ever eat fruit either. But then, I never liked fruit.
>
> The carbs we eat are well within the guidelines for the ADA.

Most of us here do not follow the ADA.
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Julie Bove



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"brigmave" wrote in message @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
> guidelines.
> You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
> fact that people metabolize foods differently.
> How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
> laughable too?

Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs. You
seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"Cheri" wrote in message @softcom.net...

> I already told you that I don't believe you. You're either not
> testing, or you're not a type2 diabetic. That is my belief. I could be
> wrong though, and often am.

Either that or he is a very large man. I know two such. They can eat a lot
more carbs than I can. However, I'm with you and don't believe it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"brigmave" wrote in message @50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 7, 4:17 pm, "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> "brigmave" wrote in message
>>
>> @o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 7, 2:23 am, "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> >> "brigmave" wrote in message
>>
>> >>@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >I am amazed! How could the consumption of cauliflower cause such a
>> >> > lengthy discussion?
>> >> > Perhaps Asparagus, Leeks or cabbage could cause such emotions
>> >> > errupting...but cauliflower?
>> >> > How about Rhutabagas or Petit Choux's. We consume those also!
>> >> > What about fruit? We regularly eat papaya, mango, pineapple, star
>> >> > fruit, figs, persimmons, apricots and plucots.
>> >> > I grow all my own herbs and purchase only those that are grown
>> >> > elsewhere. I have some lovely baby ginger just about ready to
>> >> > harvest.
>> >> > Surely other foods are much more interesting !
>> >> > Thanks for the spirited discussions on the subject. I didn't know
>> >> > cauliflower could raise ire!
>>
>> >> It's not the cauliflower, it's the amount of carbs you are eating.
>> >> There
>> >> are few of us here who could eat anywhere near 200g of carbs per day.
>> >> We'd
>> >> be in spike city!
>>
>> >> I rarely ever eat fruit either. But then, I never liked fruit.
>>
>> > The carbs we eat are well within the guidelines for the ADA.
>>
>> Most of us here do not follow the ADA.
>
> Could that be why you have so many problems?

Ha! No.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"brigmave" wrote in message @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 7, 4:19 pm, "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> "brigmave" wrote in message
>>
>> @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > I most eat several serving of fruit during the day following the ADA
>> > guidelines.
>> > You may laugh, roll on the floor or whatever! You must accept the
>> > fact that people metabolize foods differently.
>> > How do you feel about those who are lactose sensitive? Are they
>> > laughable too?
>>
>> Most of us here have type 2 and it's an inability to metabolize carbs.
>> You
>> seem to be bragging about what you can eat and we can't.
>
> That seems to your interpretation and it is faulty. Do all people
> Diabetics or not have to follow in your footsteps to be on the right
> road to health?

WTF? I do own the HUGE Joslin book on diabetes. I know what it is. And
nobody has to follow in my footsteps. I am trying to do a raw vegan diet.
I doubt that would appeal to most people, but it does to me. You seem to
know precious little about diabetes.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"Cheri" wrote in message @softcom.net...
>
> brigmave wrote in message
>
>>For what it is worth . I weigh in at 128 pounds and am 5' 8" tall.
> My
>>daughter is the same and she wears a size 2 (in designer clothing)
> and
>>I wear a 3-5 in off the rack from Nordstrom's. I am at my heaviest
> in
>>my whole life. When visiting my
>>mother and father is Norway this summer I stuffed on great cheese of
>>the areas.
>>I also gorged on Salmon fresh from the fiords. I will get back to
>>normal as fall progresses.No more wonderful fern curls cooked in
>>butter and wine.
>>My husband is 6' 4" and weighs in between 198 and 220 depending what
>>country we are in at the time
>>I believe it is our dedication to sport and exercise that keeps
>>everything well within normal limits.
>>How much do you weigh and what is your height?
>>Brig
>
>
> 127 and I'm 5'9." Of courseI have no way of actually knowing what you
> weigh or how tall you are, just as you have no way of knowing about
> me, so...I'll stick with that story. LOL You're starting to sound very
> familiar to me, very much like a poster from the past with a different
> nick.

That's what I'm thinking too. And what country is she posting from? First
it sounded like France, then Australia and now I just don't know.

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