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krom



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

Worst..pun intended hot dog i ever ate was a german one during october
fest..it was white and tasted livery and over peppered..demanded my money
back.

Only wine i ever liked was a german dessert wine..it was delicious and
spicy..probly too much sugar for me to drink now tho...


KROM

"Ozgirl" wrote in message @news.supernews.com...
>
> "brigmave" wrote in message
> @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 8, 6:06 pm, "Ozgirl" wrote:
>>> "Janet Wilder" wrote in message
>>>
>>> $0$10087$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I'm not going to list American foods. Foods do vary by region and
>>> >> yes,
>>> >> we do have American foods.
>>>
>>> > barbecue!
>>>
>>> Hot dogs.. Smile
>>
>> For what is it worth.
>> Hot dogs are the descendants of the German Wurst's. They were served
>> here for the first time at one of the World's Fairs held in the US.
>> (That is sold in a kiosk) They had been eaten in homes by the German
>> and Scandinavians since their arrival. Same as the ice cream cone
>> which was a form of thin waffle and became the cone.
>
> I love waffle cones, they don't love me of course. The first ice cream I
> had in waffle cones was something like Norgen Vaas (bad spelling). Now
> waffle cones are churned out like there is no tomorrow and nowhere near as
> good as the ones that first got sold here in Australia. As to hot dogs,
> hopefully the original Wursts were a heck of a lot better.
>

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Julie Bove



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"brigmave" wrote in message @22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 8, 2:36 pm, Nicky wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:08:09 -0700, brigmave
>> wrote:
>>
>> >It seems you do not understand the in and outs of the diet I follow.
>> >It is the ADA diet. American Diabetic Association diet. It seems to
>> >be quite acceptable amongst
>> >my medical team.
>>
>> I understand it all too well. It's probably the reason you're on
>> insulin.
>>
>> Nicky.
>> T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
>> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>> Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
> I am on Insulin because I produce none and we exercise very heavily.

If you produce none, then you are not between a type 1 and 2. You are a 1.
And you would need to take insulin with each meal.
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Julie Bove



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"brigmave" wrote in message @y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 8, 2:38 pm, "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> "brigmave" wrote in message
>>
>> @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > I am so pleased to be called a troll. These dear little creatures
>> > live in the forests
>> > of Norway. The place of my birth. They are considered to bring much
>> > luck and joy and I hope I bring that to you.
>> > I don't plan on going away. You obviously have not read correctly!
>> > It seems you do not understand the in and outs of the diet I follow.
>> > It is the ADA diet. American Diabetic Association diet. It seems to
>> > be quite acceptable amongst
>> > my medical team.
>> > We also are very involved in intensive exercise almost every day.
>> > Calling names has never solved anything. Try and look outside your
>> > experience and see what others are doing and achieving the ultimate
>> > goals one has set.
>> > Thank you for your concern I do appreciate it.
>>
>> Again, there IS no ADA diet. Hasn't been for some time. They even say
>> that
>> at their website.
>
> It is called the ADA Diet and Pyramid. Works for many but evidently
> not for you or many of those in this forum.

Doesn't work for type 2's! And it is no longer used. As I said... Hasn't
been used for years.
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Julie Bove



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"brigmave" wrote in message @19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 8, 2:52 pm, "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> "Nicky" wrote in message
>>
>> @4ax.com...
>>
>> > On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:08:09 -0700, brigmave
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>It seems you do not understand the in and outs of the diet I follow.
>> >>It is the ADA diet. American Diabetic Association diet. It seems to
>> >>be quite acceptable amongst
>> >>my medical team.
>>
>> > I understand it all too well. It's probably the reason you're on
>> > insulin.
>>
>> She says she is between type 1 and 2.
>
> I don't say that my medical team arrived at that designation. Why?

Because most of us here don't use insulin.
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Julie Bove



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"brigmave" wrote in message @k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 8, 7:04 pm, "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> "Janet Wilder" wrote in message
>>
>> $0$10087$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> > Nicky wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:08:09 -0700, brigmave
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> It seems you do not understand the in and outs of the diet I follow.
>> >>> It is the ADA diet. American Diabetic Association diet. It seems to
>> >>> be quite acceptable amongst
>> >>> my medical team.
>>
>> >> I understand it all too well. It's probably the reason you're on
>> >> insulin.
>>
>> > Nicky, just because a T2 is on insulin does not mean that they have
>> > failed
>> > to care for themselves. You made it sound like a punishment.
>>
>> She says she is in between type 1 and type 2. Whatever that means.
>
> This particular assignment is well described in medical literature.
> Consider this there are many type 2 Diabetics who are children and
> that classification was never given to those under 35 for many years.

A type 2 who is a child is still a type 2.
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Julie Bove



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"Nicky" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:29:35 -0700, brigmave
> wrote:
>
>> No I do not take Insulin to cover food.
>
> So what do you think you're taking it for then?!

*snort*
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Alan S



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:25:12 GMT, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

>
>"Alan S" wrote in message
>@4ax.com...
>
>> In that sense so are sweetcorn(maize), potatoes, tomatoes;
>> even coffee and tobacco:
>> http://monologues.co.uk/Bob_Newhart/Tobacco.htm
>>
>Not so sure about the coffee unless you are counting South America as being
>American food.

Did you go to the link.

And I tend to think of South America as being in the
Americas:-)


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Ozgirl



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"Janet Wilder" wrote in message $0$9918$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Alan S wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:58:40 GMT, "Julie Bove"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I honestly don't know where BBQ originates.
>>
>> I'm not sure either - probably Neanderthal Man somewhere in
>> the Rift Valley as an intended act rather than earlier
>> species fortuitously finding roast dinosaurs after a forest
>> fire.
>>
>> As to more recent times, almost all cultures have periods
>> where dinner was cooked over open fires by various means.
>> I'd hardly call it culturally unique.
>
> You have to stop thinking of it as a verb. It's a noun.

So you take a piece of beast and call it barbecue. I see... I think Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

"Janet Wilder" wrote in message $0$9918$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Susan wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe. I think that might be more of a Southern thing.
>>
>> That's why it's American.
>>
>> Susan
>
> Absolutely! and, BTW, barbecue is a noun, not a verb.

It's also a noun as well here. The device you cook it on is also called a
barbecue Wink
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Alan S



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:15:32 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote:

>They barbecue (v) in Australia. To my knowledge, they don't eat barbecue
>(n). As we are leaving for Australia and New Zealand in less than two
>weeks, I will report on it.
>
>One of the things we are doing is going to the Sounds of Silence Dinner
>which the tour book calls "a gourmet barbeque dinner" at the base of
>Ayers Rock. We would be very disappointed if they served barbecue.

I have friends who went to that and came back with
favourable reports.

However, whenever you travel to places dependant on tourist
income the pressure to meet American Tourist's tastes may
lead to the cuisine being more American than Australian - or
unrepresentative of our usual fare. You will find that the
number of Australians eating things like kangaroo or
crocodile is about the same as the number of USAians eating
elk or alligator.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Alan S



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:15:32 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote:

>They barbecue (v) in Australia. To my knowledge, they don't eat barbecue
>(n). As we are leaving for Australia and New Zealand in less than two
>weeks, I will report on it.
>
>One of the things we are doing is going to the Sounds of Silence Dinner
>which the tour book calls "a gourmet barbeque dinner" at the base of
>Ayers Rock. We would be very disappointed if they served barbecue.

A post-script.

I've forgotten whether it's you or Martha or both who are
going to Melbourne. As you are interested in food on your
trip, one experience I've had lots of good reports on is the
Melbourne Tram restaurant.

It trundles around the suburbs while you eat.
http://www.tramrestaurant.com.au/


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Nicky



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:29:35 -0700, brigmave
wrote:

> No I do not take Insulin to cover food.

So what do you think you're taking it for then?!

Nicky.
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D&E, 100ug thyroxine
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Alan S



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:10:55 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote:

>Alan S wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:58:40 GMT, "Julie Bove"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I honestly don't know where BBQ originates.
>>
>> I'm not sure either - probably Neanderthal Man somewhere in
>> the Rift Valley as an intended act rather than earlier
>> species fortuitously finding roast dinosaurs after a forest
>> fire.
>>
>> As to more recent times, almost all cultures have periods
>> where dinner was cooked over open fires by various means.
>> I'd hardly call it culturally unique.
>
>You have to stop thinking of it as a verb. It's a noun.

A regional variation as we discussed. here it is both. A
barbecue is the thing we leave out in the backyard to cook
on; usually using charcoal or LPG. To barbecue is to cook
over an open flame or coals.


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Alan S



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:14:51 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote:

>Who knows how long we shall have our health and be capable of travel.
>DH's heart, after a MUGA scan, is only at 25%, but he got a great report
>on his kidney function which is normal (yay!) today. I just had a really
>awful time with cancer treatment then an unexpected experience with a
>ruptured colon last year. As long as the money and our health holds out,
>we intend to travel.

My sentiments exactly. I always wanted to travel, but there
was always something in the way - responsibilities,
finances, family, you know what I mean. So apart from some
quick trips with the RAAF I hadn't travelled as I wanted to.

Then in 2002 the doc told me my blood was more interesting
than most people. When I got home from the appointment I
told SWMBO that I was now retired and I was going around the
world and invited her to join me. It was much later in the
day I told her what the doc had said.

Since then: RTW1 March-August 2003, Fiji 2005, NZ Feb 2006,
RTW2 March-July 2006, now planning RTW3 for next March. And,
of course, wandering in Oz in between. So much to see and
experience, so little time:-)

Carpe Diem.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Cauliflower: How could it cause such Reply with quote

Janet Wilder wrote in message
...
>brigmave wrote:
>
>> I am on Insulin because I produce none and we exercise very
heavily.
>> Brig
>
>For someone who produces no insulin, you don't take very much and
don't
>know if you are T1 or T2?
>
>Since you don't understand the meaning of the word "troll" in Usenet
>terms, I'll just call you a fake. I'm certain that you'll understand
that.


Smile

Cheri

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