Half the Bread

Jennifer · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 64

In my neck of the woods, we call that an "Open Faced Sandwich".

Jennifer

Peanutjake wrote:
> I visited my aunt today for lunch.
> She served me a sandwich.
> Instead of two slices of bread, the upper slice was replaced with a large leaf of lettuce.
>
> It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.
>
> PJ
>
>

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Colleen · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

It's the little changed that can make a difference.

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"Peanutjake" wrote in message$reaq4$1@ID-134303.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I visited my aunt today for lunch.
> She served me a sandwich.
> Instead of two slices of bread, the upper slice was replaced with a large
leaf of lettuce.
>
> It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.
>
> PJ
>
>

Peanutjake · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 32

I visited my aunt today for lunch.
She served me a sandwich.
Instead of two slices of bread, the upper slice was replaced with a large leaf of lettuce.

It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.

PJ

K'neH'a'Iw · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 10

Bay Area Dave wrote:
> I'm now eating whole wheat bread.

I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread. It
has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes
along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which had molasses in it.

I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat flour.

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Colleen · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

A small amount of sugar is necessary for the yeast to activate in a lot of
cases. I found a low carb, whole grain bread with 3gr. per slice. Granted
it isn't an oven fresh French baguette, but I can get some decent toast out
of it. Really helps at breakfast time.

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"K'neH'a'Iw" wrote in message@corp.supernews.com...
> Bay Area Dave wrote:
> > I'm now eating whole wheat bread.
>
> I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread. It
> has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes
> along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which had molasses in it.
>
> I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat
flour.
>
> --
> K'neH'a'Iw
>
> Uncloaking, Shields up.
>

Colleen · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

For bread that's low in sugar, it should be one of the last ingredients
listed. Ingredients are listed in order of amount used. High fructose corn
syrup is it's third ingredient so that's pretty high. I know that the bread
I eat has it a one of the last ingredients. It's whole grain wheat, wheat
gluten, with any sweetner listed toward the end. It's Manitowoc Natural
Ovens Low Carb bread. There's two varieties. One has sunflower seeds in it
and makes great toast. The other one is great for sandwiches. Even their
regular bread is only 7 to 9 grams of carb. You can find it on line. I
don't know the URL but it's under Natural Ovens. It's available for order
on-line in the US. It's expensive, but to me, it's worth it. I figure when
I have to be so careful with what I eat, I'm going to make sure it's the
best I can buy.

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"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message$oa.34569377@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> guess what? the bread I've got is listed as "STONE GROUND WHOLE WHEAT
> BREAD".
>
> so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:
>
> whole wheat flour
> water
> high fructose corn syrup
> vital wheat gluten
> yeast
> 2% or less of the following:
> soybean oil
> salt
> honey
> molasses
> raisin juice concentrate
> blah blah blah chemicals...
>
> calories per slice - 110
> calories from fat - 10
> total fat - 1.5g
> total carb - 20g
> dietary fiber - 3g
> protein - 4g
>
> so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that it's
> healthy stuff?
>
> dave
>
> K'neH'a'Iw wrote:
>
> > Bay Area Dave wrote:
> >
> >> I'm now eating whole wheat bread.
> >
> >
> > I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread. It
> > has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes
> > along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which had molasses in it.
> >
> > I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat
> > flour.
> >
>

TerryR · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 10

The sugars listed on bread ingredients are almost never
present in the finished product. During the rising stage,
the yeast ferments almost all available sugar to alcohol.
This alcohol is evaporated during the baking stage. Almost
all the carbs in bread comes from flour.

TerryR

"K'neH'a'Iw" wrote in message@corp.supernews.com...
>
> It's probably healthy just not low carb.
>
> The good news it it seems to 100% stone ground whole
wheat.
>
> The bad news it is has at least 4 simple carb ingredients
>
> high fructose corn syrup
> honey
> molasses
> raisin juice concentrate
>
> All are basically sweeteners.
>
> The high fructose corn syrup may or may not show up in
your blood tests.
> As I understand it fructose is metabolized differently
than glucose.
>
> K'neH'a'Iw
>

K'neH'a'Iw · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 10

Bay Area Dave wrote:
> guess what? the bread I've got is listed as "STONE GROUND WHOLE WHEAT
> BREAD".
>
> so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:
>
> whole wheat flour
> water
> high fructose corn syrup
> vital wheat gluten
> yeast
> 2% or less of the following:
> soybean oil
> salt
> honey
> molasses
> raisin juice concentrate
> blah blah blah chemicals...
>
> calories per slice - 110
> calories from fat - 10
> total fat - 1.5g
> total carb - 20g
> dietary fiber - 3g
> protein - 4g
>

It's probably healthy just not low carb.

The good news it it seems to 100% stone ground whole wheat.

The bad news it is has at least 4 simple carb ingredients

high fructose corn syrup
honey
molasses
raisin juice concentrate

All are basically sweeteners.

The high fructose corn syrup may or may not show up in your blood tests.
As I understand it fructose is metabolized differently than glucose.

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t2_lurking · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 17

> Healthy enough to go out and play with Peter and Flopsy and Bunny...

LOL

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Colleen · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

This is a good company. It has been doing business in the state for years
and has an excellent reputation. That surprises me.

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"Julie Bove" wrote in message@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
>
> "Colleen" wrote in message
> @corp.supernews.com...
> > For bread that's low in sugar, it should be one of the last ingredients
> > listed. Ingredients are listed in order of amount used. High fructose
> corn
> > syrup is it's third ingredient so that's pretty high. I know that the
> bread
> > I eat has it a one of the last ingredients. It's whole grain wheat,
wheat
> > gluten, with any sweetner listed toward the end. It's Manitowoc Natural
> > Ovens Low Carb bread. There's two varieties. One has sunflower seeds
in
> it
> > and makes great toast. The other one is great for sandwiches. Even
their
> > regular bread is only 7 to 9 grams of carb. You can find it on line. I
> > don't know the URL but it's under Natural Ovens. It's available for
order
> > on-line in the US. It's expensive, but to me, it's worth it. I figure
> when
> > I have to be so careful with what I eat, I'm going to make sure it's the
> > best I can buy.
>
> I just did a search on it and here's one thing I found:
>
>
http://ask.elibrary.com/login.asp?c=&host=ask%2Eelibrary%2Ecom&script=%2Fgetdoc%2Easp&query=pubname%3D%26puburl%3D%26querydocid%3D19825165%40urn%3Abigchalk%3AUS%3BLib%26dtype%3D0%7E0%26dinst%3D0%2520%26title%3DNATURAL%2520OVENS%2520WARNED%2520ON%2520UNDERWEIGHT%2520BREAD%2520%2520%26date%3D%26author%3DAuthor%2520not%2520available%2520%2520%26refid%3Dink%5F2&title=NATURAL+OVENS+WARNED+ON+UNDERWEIGHT+BREAD++&pubname=&author=Author+not+available++&date=&ctrlInfo=
>
> Ack! What a huge URL! I hope it comes up when you click on it. At any
> rate, it basically says this company was warned about selling bread that
is
> lower in weight than is stated on the package. They blamed faulty
> equipment.
>
>
> --
> Type 2
> http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
>
>

Colleen · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

Julie,
I found the article on-line. This problem was detected in Feb. 2002. I am
a class A skeptic, but in this case I tend to believe the company. They
have to good of a reputation in the state to risk major problems.

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"Julie Bove" wrote in message@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
>
> "Colleen" wrote in message
> @corp.supernews.com...
> > For bread that's low in sugar, it should be one of the last ingredients
> > listed. Ingredients are listed in order of amount used. High fructose
> corn
> > syrup is it's third ingredient so that's pretty high. I know that the
> bread
> > I eat has it a one of the last ingredients. It's whole grain wheat,
wheat
> > gluten, with any sweetner listed toward the end. It's Manitowoc Natural
> > Ovens Low Carb bread. There's two varieties. One has sunflower seeds
in
> it
> > and makes great toast. The other one is great for sandwiches. Even
their
> > regular bread is only 7 to 9 grams of carb. You can find it on line. I
> > don't know the URL but it's under Natural Ovens. It's available for
order
> > on-line in the US. It's expensive, but to me, it's worth it. I figure
> when
> > I have to be so careful with what I eat, I'm going to make sure it's the
> > best I can buy.
>
> I just did a search on it and here's one thing I found:
>
>
http://ask.elibrary.com/login.asp?c=&host=ask%2Eelibrary%2Ecom&script=%2Fgetdoc%2Easp&query=pubname%3D%26puburl%3D%26querydocid%3D19825165%40urn%3Abigchalk%3AUS%3BLib%26dtype%3D0%7E0%26dinst%3D0%2520%26title%3DNATURAL%2520OVENS%2520WARNED%2520ON%2520UNDERWEIGHT%2520BREAD%2520%2520%26date%3D%26author%3DAuthor%2520not%2520available%2520%2520%26refid%3Dink%5F2&title=NATURAL+OVENS+WARNED+ON+UNDERWEIGHT+BREAD++&pubname=&author=Author+not+available++&date=&ctrlInfo=
>
> Ack! What a huge URL! I hope it comes up when you click on it. At any
> rate, it basically says this company was warned about selling bread that
is
> lower in weight than is stated on the package. They blamed faulty
> equipment.
>
>
> --
> Type 2
> http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
>
>

Julie Bove · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 106

"Colleen" wrote in message@corp.supernews.com...
> For bread that's low in sugar, it should be one of the last ingredients
> listed. Ingredients are listed in order of amount used. High fructose
corn
> syrup is it's third ingredient so that's pretty high. I know that the
bread
> I eat has it a one of the last ingredients. It's whole grain wheat, wheat
> gluten, with any sweetner listed toward the end. It's Manitowoc Natural
> Ovens Low Carb bread. There's two varieties. One has sunflower seeds in
it
> and makes great toast. The other one is great for sandwiches. Even their
> regular bread is only 7 to 9 grams of carb. You can find it on line. I
> don't know the URL but it's under Natural Ovens. It's available for order
> on-line in the US. It's expensive, but to me, it's worth it. I figure
when
> I have to be so careful with what I eat, I'm going to make sure it's the
> best I can buy.

I just did a search on it and here's one thing I found:

http://ask.elibrary.com/login.asp?c=&host=ask%2Eelibrary%2Ecom&script=%2Fgetdoc%2Easp&query=pubname%3D%26puburl%3D%26querydocid%3D19825165%40urn%3Abigchalk%3AUS%3BLib%26dtype%3D0%7E0%26dinst%3D0%2520%26title%3DNATURAL%2520OVENS%2520WARNED%2520ON%2520UNDERWEIGHT%2520BREAD%2520%2520%26date%3D%26author%3DAuthor%2520not%2520available%2520%2520%26refid%3Dink%5F2&title=NATURAL+OVENS+WARNED+ON+UNDERWEIGHT+BREAD++&pubname=&author=Author+not+available++&date=&ctrlInfo=

Ack! What a huge URL! I hope it comes up when you click on it. At any
rate, it basically says this company was warned about selling bread that is
lower in weight than is stated on the package. They blamed faulty
equipment.

--
Type 2
http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

Bay Area Dave · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 4

gee, and to think I've been folding one piece of bread in half to make a
1/2 sandwich! What was I thinking???

dave

Peanutjake wrote:

> I visited my aunt today for lunch.
> She served me a sandwich.
> Instead of two slices of bread, the upper slice was replaced with a large leaf of lettuce.
>
> It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.
>
> PJ
>
>

Evelyn Ruut · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 1

Better yet, if you buy the light bread.... (Pepperidge farm makes a lite
multi grain that is just delicious) you can have your whole sandwich using
two slices for the same carbs and calories of one slice of regular bread.

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Evelyn

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nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well burst
into laughter." -Longchenpa

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message$P_7.34160794@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> gee, and to think I've been folding one piece of bread in half to make a
> 1/2 sandwich! What was I thinking???
>
> dave
>
> Peanutjake wrote:
>
> > I visited my aunt today for lunch.
> > She served me a sandwich.
> > Instead of two slices of bread, the upper slice was replaced with a
large leaf of lettuce.
> >
> > It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.
> >
> > PJ
> >
> >
>

Bay Area Dave · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 4

I'm now eating whole wheat bread. I like white bread better, but this
stuff isn't TOO bad. I tried 3 brands before I found one that I like.
the worst one was Sara Lee, IIRC. The one in the fridge now is Country
Farms. It has a more balanced flavor and it's softer and fresher than
the other 2 brands I tried.

dave

Evelyn Ruut wrote:

> Better yet, if you buy the light bread.... (Pepperidge farm makes a lite
> multi grain that is just delicious) you can have your whole sandwich using
> two slices for the same carbs and calories of one slice of regular bread.
>