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Stu Pider



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message $ri.35059936@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> I'm now eating whole wheat bread. I like white bread better, but this
> stuff isn't TOO bad. I tried 3 brands before I found one that I like.
> the worst one was Sara Lee, IIRC. The one in the fridge now is Country Farms.



I hope that "The one in the fridge now" is in the FREEZER not in the refrigerator. Bread goes stale faster at refrigerator
temperatures than at room temperature, but lasts longest in the FREEZER.

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loralspam



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:05:07 GMT, "Beav"
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
>@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:59:46 GMT, "Beav"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you go again next week, she may substitute the OTHER slice with a lump
>of
>> >lettuce too, THEN where would you be:-))
>> >
>> >Beav
>>
>> Healthy enough to go out and play with Peter and Flopsy and Bunny...
>
>It's not healthy you need to be to do that, it's perverted Smile
>
>Beav
>
Not if your surname is Cottontail.....
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Beav



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

wrote in message@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:05:07 GMT, "Beav"
> wrote:
>
> >
> > wrote in message
> >@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:59:46 GMT, "Beav"
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >If you go again next week, she may substitute the OTHER slice with a
lump
> >of
> >> >lettuce too, THEN where would you be:-))
> >> >
> >> >Beav
> >>
> >> Healthy enough to go out and play with Peter and Flopsy and Bunny...
> >
> >It's not healthy you need to be to do that, it's perverted Smile
> >
> >Beav
> >
> Not if your surname is Cottontail.....

I think my middle name's either Bill or Ben, coz I quite fancy Loobie Loo
Smile)

Beav
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Al Hardy



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

"Beav" wrote in message$cI2.656448@news.easynews.com...
>
> wrote in message
> @4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:05:07 GMT, "Beav"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > wrote in message
> > >@4ax.com...
> > >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:59:46 GMT, "Beav"
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >If you go again next week, she may substitute the OTHER slice with a
> lump
> > >of
> > >> >lettuce too, THEN where would you be:-))
> > >> >
> > >> >Beav
> > >>
> > >> Healthy enough to go out and play with Peter and Flopsy and Bunny...
> > >
> > >It's not healthy you need to be to do that, it's perverted Smile
> > >
> > >Beav
> > >
> > Not if your surname is Cottontail.....
>
> I think my middle name's either Bill or Ben, coz I quite fancy Loobie Loo
> Smile)
>
> Beav
>
Oi, I spoke for Loobie Loo decades ago, so you keep your mitts off (giggle)

Al.
I`ll tell tales to Beavette if you don`t watch it. See you at IDDT in
mid-October, m8.
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Jette Goldie



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

"Beav" wrote in message$cI2.656448@news.easynews.com...
>
> wrote in message
> @4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:05:07 GMT, "Beav"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > wrote in message
> > >@4ax.com...
> > >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:59:46 GMT, "Beav"
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >If you go again next week, she may substitute the OTHER slice with a
> lump
> > >of
> > >> >lettuce too, THEN where would you be:-))
> > >> >
> > >> >Beav
> > >>
> > >> Healthy enough to go out and play with Peter and Flopsy and Bunny...
> > >
> > >It's not healthy you need to be to do that, it's perverted Smile
> > >
> > >Beav
> > >
> > Not if your surname is Cottontail.....
>
> I think my middle name's either Bill or Ben, coz I quite fancy Loobie Loo
> Smile)


That would be Ted and Andy. Bill and Ben played with Little Weed.

Wink


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Phil



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:45:08 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
wrote:

>

>> I think my middle name's either Bill or Ben, coz I quite fancy Loobie Loo
>> Smile)
>
>
>That would be Ted and Andy. Bill and Ben played with Little Weed.
>
>Wink

There's nowt wrong with a Little Weed.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King.
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Beav



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

"Al Hardy" wrote in message$1cmg8$1@ID-191168.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> "Beav" wrote in message
> $cI2.656448@news.easynews.com...
> >
> > wrote in message
> > @4ax.com...
> > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:05:07 GMT, "Beav"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > wrote in message
> > > >@4ax.com...
> > > >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:59:46 GMT, "Beav"
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >If you go again next week, she may substitute the OTHER slice with
a
> > lump
> > > >of
> > > >> >lettuce too, THEN where would you be:-))
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Beav
> > > >>
> > > >> Healthy enough to go out and play with Peter and Flopsy and
Bunny...
> > > >
> > > >It's not healthy you need to be to do that, it's perverted Smile
> > > >
> > > >Beav
> > > >
> > > Not if your surname is Cottontail.....
> >
> > I think my middle name's either Bill or Ben, coz I quite fancy Loobie
Loo
> > Smile)
> >
> > Beav
> >
> Oi, I spoke for Loobie Loo decades ago, so you keep your mitts off
(giggle)

WEeeeeeee--eeeeedddd Smile
>
> Al.
> I`ll tell tales to Beavette if you don`t watch it.

She's heard so many over t' years, she's immune these days:-)

See you at IDDT in
> mid-October, m8.

It's a possibility, but not a definitility

Beav


>
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Beav



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

"Jette Goldie" wrote in message$lG1.5904576@news-text.cableinet.net...
>
> "Beav" wrote in message
> $cI2.656448@news.easynews.com...
> >
> > wrote in message
> > @4ax.com...
> > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:05:07 GMT, "Beav"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > wrote in message
> > > >@4ax.com...
> > > >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:59:46 GMT, "Beav"
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >If you go again next week, she may substitute the OTHER slice with
a
> > lump
> > > >of
> > > >> >lettuce too, THEN where would you be:-))
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Beav
> > > >>
> > > >> Healthy enough to go out and play with Peter and Flopsy and
Bunny...
> > > >
> > > >It's not healthy you need to be to do that, it's perverted Smile
> > > >
> > > >Beav
> > > >
> > > Not if your surname is Cottontail.....
> >
> > I think my middle name's either Bill or Ben, coz I quite fancy Loobie
Loo
> > Smile)
>
>
> That would be Ted and Andy.

I know, it was the striped jama's that bollocksed me up Smile)

Bill and Ben played with Little Weed.

Indeeeee-eeeedddd Smile

Beav
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BZ



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:14 am    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to most
comsumers and especially diabetics.

http://www.thenutritionreporter.com/fructose_dangers.html
http://www.menshealth.com/features/mensconf/docs/doc31.html

> so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:
>
> whole wheat flour
> water
> high fructose corn syrup
> vital wheat gluten
> yeast
> 2% or less of the following:
> soybean oil
> salt
> honey
> molasses
> raisin juice concentrate
> blah blah blah chemicals...
>
> calories per slice - 110
> calories from fat - 10
> total fat - 1.5g
> total carb - 20g
> dietary fiber - 3g
> protein - 4g
>
> so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that it's
> healthy stuff?
>
> dave
>
> K'neH'a'Iw wrote:
>
> > Bay Area Dave wrote:
> >
> >> I'm now eating whole wheat bread.
> >
> >
> > I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread. It
> > has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes
> > along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which had molasses in it.
> >
> > I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat
> > flour.
> >
>
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Ted Rosenberg



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

cc;d by email

This trolling scammers has just entered the NG's under a new name,
representing Momma Betty and the anti medicine scammers

look for a rash of similar posts soon

BZ wrote:

> HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to most
> comsumers and especially diabetics.
>
> http://www.thenutritionreporter.com/fructose_dangers.html
> http://www.menshealth.com/features/mensconf/docs/doc31.html
>
>
>>so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:
>>
>>whole wheat flour
>>water
>>high fructose corn syrup
>>vital wheat gluten
>>yeast
>>2% or less of the following:
>>soybean oil
>>salt
>>honey
>>molasses
>>raisin juice concentrate
>>blah blah blah chemicals...
>>
>>calories per slice - 110
>>calories from fat - 10
>>total fat - 1.5g
>>total carb - 20g
>>dietary fiber - 3g
>>protein - 4g
>>
>>so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that it's
>>healthy stuff?
>>
>>dave
>>
>>K'neH'a'Iw wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm now eating whole wheat bread.
>>>
>>>
>>>I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread. It
>>>has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes
>>>along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which had molasses in it.
>>>
>>>I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat
>>>flour.
>>>
>>
>
>
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BZ



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

It must be terrible to live such a paranoid life Ted. Why is is that almost
the entire medical community is talking about HFCS? Are you afraid that
maybe all those twinkies and soda you eat and drink that got your fat ass
Type 2 diabetes will disappear? I can't even recommend you get a life Ted
since you are a waste of life. Good-luck to you sir.

"Ted Rosenberg" wrote in message@iname.com...
> cc;d by email
>
> This trolling scammers has just entered the NG's under a new name,
> representing Momma Betty and the anti medicine scammers
>
> look for a rash of similar posts soon
>
> BZ wrote:
>
> > HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to most
> > comsumers and especially diabetics.
> >
> > http://www.thenutritionreporter.com/fructose_dangers.html
> > http://www.menshealth.com/features/mensconf/docs/doc31.html
> >
> >
> >>so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:
> >>
> >>whole wheat flour
> >>water
> >>high fructose corn syrup
> >>vital wheat gluten
> >>yeast
> >>2% or less of the following:
> >>soybean oil
> >>salt
> >>honey
> >>molasses
> >>raisin juice concentrate
> >>blah blah blah chemicals...
> >>
> >>calories per slice - 110
> >>calories from fat - 10
> >>total fat - 1.5g
> >>total carb - 20g
> >>dietary fiber - 3g
> >>protein - 4g
> >>
> >>so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that it's
> >>healthy stuff?
> >>
> >>dave
> >>
> >>K'neH'a'Iw wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Bay Area Dave wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm now eating whole wheat bread.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread.
It
> >>>has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes
> >>>along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which had molasses in it.
> >>>
> >>>I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat
> >>>flour.
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Julie Bove



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

"Ted Rosenberg" wrote in message@iname.com...
> cc;d by email
>
> This trolling scammers has just entered the NG's under a new name,
> representing Momma Betty and the anti medicine scammers
>
> look for a rash of similar posts soon

Yep. He has hit the food group already. *sigh*

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

"BZ" wrote in message$Ys.380336@news20.bellglobal.com...
> It must be terrible to live such a paranoid life Ted. Why is is that
almost
> the entire medical community is talking about HFCS? Are you afraid that
> maybe all those twinkies and soda you eat and drink that got your fat ass
> Type 2 diabetes will disappear? I can't even recommend you get a life Ted
> since you are a waste of life. Good-luck to you sir.

Go away!

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BZ



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

> Gee, I wonder how you explain all of those morbidly obese people who
_don't_
> have diabetes? Or the thin ones who DO?

Type 2 diabetes is approaching epidemic levels. Fact. We may have very soon,
the first generation of children who will not out live their parents due to
the extremely critical rise in obesity and Type 2 diabetes. Fact.



> > Type 2 diabetes is preventable and unnecessary.
>
> That statement alone proves that you rode the _little_ bus to school. You
> must be pulling these "facts" out of your ass, or do you have a legitimate
> cite you'd care to share with us ignorant folk? Or is this simply another
> iteration of the twinkie defense?

Google: type 2 diabetes preventable

> It's ignorant and unfeeling folks like you that make this illness more
> difficult to live with than necessary.

I have a Type 1 diabetic son. Please don't comment on my feelings towards
others with this disease. I have taken nutrition and diet very seriously
since my son was diagnosed over 8 years ago. If you're not interested in
intelligent discussion, just don't respond.

> > I have to say this group is quite full of the most
> > narrow-minded people I have ever had the dis-pleasure of associating
> > with.
>
> Still, it's better than having to put up with anal sphincters like you who
> couldn't buy a clue if their life depended on it!

Intelligent repsonse. Congratulations.

> > I susbscribed to the group because I thought I would find
> > intelligent conversations regarding diabetes
>
> Which you hope to find by stating that "Type 2 diabetes is preventable and
> unnecessary"??

Are you unable to have a rationale discussion regarding that topic. I can
see that you can't by your responses so far.

> > I am not a diabetic but my son is (Type 1).
>
> So, the mere fact that your SON is type 1 makes you an instant expert on
> type 2? WOW!! That's simply AMAZING! How was this knowledge delivered?
Black
> helicopter? Or did a UFO transmit it directly to you? Time to wrap your
head
> in tinfoil to ensure that the knowledge isn't lost through leakage.

I would hardly call 8 years "instant". How old are you anyways? Do you have
children (I hope not)? Until you have a child with a disease that could
shorten and affect his/her life, please keep the insensitive comments to
yourself. You're showing your intelligence again.

> > I enjoy seeking information and discussing
> > nutrition and diet related topics but I can see that doesn't happen
> > here.
>
> Based on your posts, all you enjoy doing is disseminating half-truths,
> ignorance and myths disguised as knowledge.

Facts please.

> Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

You're American right?

> Regards,
>
> James the Elder
>
>
>
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BZ



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Half the Bread Reply with quote

> I actually agree with you, to be honest certain groups seem to be more
> agressive in their approach to things like this, personally i try and keep
> an open mind in such things but i tend to steer clear of foods that are
> "designed" for diabetics as for me at least they hold no appeal. I prefer
to
> make my diet up of foods that are readily availble over the counter and
> taken in moderation and sensibly are no better or worse for me than for
> anyone else.
> >
> >
> > > If you must approach a subject in the same manner as a troll or
spammer
> > > would then you can hardly moan when you get the same reception can
you.
> >
> > Something has changed I guess in the way people communicate. I thought
> > joining a conversation was called participating. So basically, if I
don't
> > agree or have another perspective on a topic I can be considered a
"troll"
> > or a "spammer". Insightful...
> >
> I meant this in the context of how some people will recieve you, for my
own
> part i've no problem with what you post. usenet is a good source of info
and
> the logical conclusion of that is that anything deemed relevant by the
> poster is fit for discussion:)

You would think. The reaction to simply responding to another persons
request for information has sparked this whole insame thread. Usenet used to
be a good source for info (maybe 5 to 10 years ago) but more and more it is
just a place for ant-socials who can't fit in in the real world and need to
hide behind their computer screens. Mailing lists are much more enjoyable as
you typically have only the people who are truly interested in discussion
with respect for others as a priority and never make anyone feel as though
they don't belong.


> Like you i'm finding that certain groups are better to post in and start
> discussions on this than certain others and i also suspect that I, like
you
> will be restricting my posting to that group and simply read the rest for
> information purposes only.
>

I look forward to any and all intelligent conversation we may have in the
future.

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