Hypo/Diabetic

trish_5 · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

On Jul 20, 5:26 pm, Alice Faber wrote:
> In article ,
>
>
>
>
>
> tris...@msn.com wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 4:31 pm, Alice Faber wrote:
> > > In article ,
>
> > > tris...@msn.com wrote:
> > > > On Jul 17, 3:53 pm, Susan wrote:
> > > > > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > > > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > > > Both thyroid problems and diabetes are metabolic disorders so it is
> > > > > > common
> > > > > > for one to have both problems. And if you do have thyroid problems,
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > can make diabetes more difficult to control.
>
> > > > > Actually, both are also pituitary problems.
>
> > > > > Susan
>
> > > > Im back.
> > > > I had two appts since I was here last, one with the diabetic educator,
> > > > and one with the
> > > > dietician.
> > > > The diabetic educator listened to me and just wrote all my numbers
> > > > down from my monitor,
> > > > and told me to eat three times a day as the dietician worked up for
> > > > me.
> > > > Dietician said to eat 3-4 carb choices per meal x3 , or 2 carb choices
> > > > if i prefer x6 a day.
> > > > You guys tell me to intake very low carbs. Now I am really confused.
> > > > Is this old school in the diabetic world?
>
> > > Did you ask the diabetes educator would to do if you ate as the
> > > dietician suggests and your post-prandial (after meal) numbers are too
> > > high?
>
> > > --
> > > AF
> > > "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
> > > --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball- Hide quoted
> > > text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > This is new to me, what the educator the one that should have
> > explained things to me?
>
> Did the educator explain how to use a blood glucose meter? You must have
> one, as they wrote down your numbers.
>
> There are two reasons you test. One reason is for your diabetes team to
> monitor your progress. The other reason is for you. You test your blood
> sugar before and after eating, and try to relate the difference to what
> you ate. For example, a pre-meal blood sugar of 90 is good. But, if an
> hour after eating, your blood sugar is 200, that's not good. Your
> diabetes team might not care about that (they should!), but you can use
> that information right away. What you use it for is to evaluate your
> menu. You might find, for instance, that if you eat 3 carb units (that's
> 45 grams of carbohydrate) for breakfast, your blood sugar an hour or two
> later is consistently too high. There are a few things you can do to
> prevent that: (1) work out after breakfast; (2) change your medications
> (well, your doctor would have to do that!); (3) eat less carbs.
>
> Many of us here have found, for instance, that carbs are particularly
> hard to deal with at breakfast time. Stick around, and you'll see, for
> instance, Alan S describing how he eats his cereal for an evening snack
> rather than first thing in the morning.
>
> --
> AF
> "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
> --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No she did not tell me that, she said to eat 3 meals a day for a week
monitor the numbers, then try eating 6 times a day for a week and
monitor the numbers.
I am not on medication. I am hoping to control this before it gets to
that point.
Thanks for the help

Trish

Archived from group: alt>food>diabetic

trish_5 · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

On Jul 20, 5:48 pm, Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> tris...@msn.com wrote:
> > Im back.
> > I had two appts since I was here last, one with the diabetic educator,
> > and one with the
> > dietician.
> > The diabetic educator listened to me and just wrote all my numbers
> > down from my monitor,
> > and told me to eat three times a day as the dietician worked up for
> > me.
> > Dietician said to eat 3-4 carb choices per meal x3 , or 2 carb choices
> > if i prefer x6 a day.
> > You guys tell me to intake very low carbs. Now I am really confused.
> > Is this old school in the diabetic world?
>
> Yes. And all wrong.
>
> And more importantly, eating that way hasn't helped you, has it?
>
> Susan

No Susan it has made me gain weight this week, geez.
I just read alot of the website you gave me, and I am changing over
to what you have been telling me all week.
Im going low carb for a week. And check them against my numbers
I have been running. Will i see a difference in a week?

Trish

Alice Faber · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

In article ,
trish_5@msn.com wrote:

> On Jul 17, 3:53 pm, Susan wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
> >
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > Both thyroid problems and diabetes are metabolic disorders so it is common
> > > for one to have both problems. And if you do have thyroid problems, that
> > > can make diabetes more difficult to control.
> >
> > Actually, both are also pituitary problems.
> >
> > Susan
>
> Im back.
> I had two appts since I was here last, one with the diabetic educator,
> and one with the
> dietician.
> The diabetic educator listened to me and just wrote all my numbers
> down from my monitor,
> and told me to eat three times a day as the dietician worked up for
> me.
> Dietician said to eat 3-4 carb choices per meal x3 , or 2 carb choices
> if i prefer x6 a day.
> You guys tell me to intake very low carbs. Now I am really confused.
> Is this old school in the diabetic world?

Did you ask the diabetes educator would to do if you ate as the
dietician suggests and your post-prandial (after meal) numbers are too
high?

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

Alice Faber · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

In article ,
trish_5@msn.com wrote:

> On Jul 20, 4:31 pm, Alice Faber wrote:
> > In article ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > tris...@msn.com wrote:
> > > On Jul 17, 3:53 pm, Susan wrote:
> > > > x-no-archive: yes
> >
> > > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > > Both thyroid problems and diabetes are metabolic disorders so it is
> > > > > common
> > > > > for one to have both problems. And if you do have thyroid problems,
> > > > > that
> > > > > can make diabetes more difficult to control.
> >
> > > > Actually, both are also pituitary problems.
> >
> > > > Susan
> >
> > > Im back.
> > > I had two appts since I was here last, one with the diabetic educator,
> > > and one with the
> > > dietician.
> > > The diabetic educator listened to me and just wrote all my numbers
> > > down from my monitor,
> > > and told me to eat three times a day as the dietician worked up for
> > > me.
> > > Dietician said to eat 3-4 carb choices per meal x3 , or 2 carb choices
> > > if i prefer x6 a day.
> > > You guys tell me to intake very low carbs. Now I am really confused.
> > > Is this old school in the diabetic world?
> >
> > Did you ask the diabetes educator would to do if you ate as the
> > dietician suggests and your post-prandial (after meal) numbers are too
> > high?
> >
> > --
> > AF
> > "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
> > --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball- Hide quoted
> > text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> This is new to me, what the educator the one that should have
> explained things to me?

Did the educator explain how to use a blood glucose meter? You must have
one, as they wrote down your numbers.

There are two reasons you test. One reason is for your diabetes team to
monitor your progress. The other reason is for you. You test your blood
sugar before and after eating, and try to relate the difference to what
you ate. For example, a pre-meal blood sugar of 90 is good. But, if an
hour after eating, your blood sugar is 200, that's not good. Your
diabetes team might not care about that (they should!), but you can use
that information right away. What you use it for is to evaluate your
menu. You might find, for instance, that if you eat 3 carb units (that's
45 grams of carbohydrate) for breakfast, your blood sugar an hour or two
later is consistently too high. There are a few things you can do to
prevent that: (1) work out after breakfast; (2) change your medications
(well, your doctor would have to do that!); (3) eat less carbs.

Many of us here have found, for instance, that carbs are particularly
hard to deal with at breakfast time. Stick around, and you'll see, for
instance, Alan S describing how he eats his cereal for an evening snack
rather than first thing in the morning.

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

Alice Faber · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

In article ,
trish_5@msn.com wrote:

> On Jul 20, 5:26 pm, Alice Faber wrote:
> > In article ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > tris...@msn.com wrote:
> > > On Jul 20, 4:31 pm, Alice Faber wrote:
> > > > In article ,
> >
> > > > tris...@msn.com wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 17, 3:53 pm, Susan wrote:
> > > > > > x-no-archive: yes
> >
> > > > > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > > > > Both thyroid problems and diabetes are metabolic disorders so it
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > common
> > > > > > > for one to have both problems. And if you do have thyroid
> > > > > > > problems,
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > can make diabetes more difficult to control.
> >
> > > > > > Actually, both are also pituitary problems.
> >
> > > > > > Susan
> >
> > > > > Im back.
> > > > > I had two appts since I was here last, one with the diabetic
> > > > > educator,
> > > > > and one with the
> > > > > dietician.
> > > > > The diabetic educator listened to me and just wrote all my numbers
> > > > > down from my monitor,
> > > > > and told me to eat three times a day as the dietician worked up for
> > > > > me.
> > > > > Dietician said to eat 3-4 carb choices per meal x3 , or 2 carb
> > > > > choices
> > > > > if i prefer x6 a day.
> > > > > You guys tell me to intake very low carbs. Now I am really
> > > > > confused.
> > > > > Is this old school in the diabetic world?
> >
> > > > Did you ask the diabetes educator would to do if you ate as the
> > > > dietician suggests and your post-prandial (after meal) numbers are too
> > > > high?
> >
> > > This is new to me, what the educator the one that should have
> > > explained things to me?
> >
> > Did the educator explain how to use a blood glucose meter? You must have
> > one, as they wrote down your numbers.
> >
> > There are two reasons you test. One reason is for your diabetes team to
> > monitor your progress. The other reason is for you. You test your blood
> > sugar before and after eating, and try to relate the difference to what
> > you ate. For example, a pre-meal blood sugar of 90 is good. But, if an
> > hour after eating, your blood sugar is 200, that's not good. Your
> > diabetes team might not care about that (they should!), but you can use
> > that information right away. What you use it for is to evaluate your
> > menu. You might find, for instance, that if you eat 3 carb units (that's
> > 45 grams of carbohydrate) for breakfast, your blood sugar an hour or two
> > later is consistently too high. There are a few things you can do to
> > prevent that: (1) work out after breakfast; (2) change your medications
> > (well, your doctor would have to do that!); (3) eat less carbs.
> >
> > Many of us here have found, for instance, that carbs are particularly
> > hard to deal with at breakfast time. Stick around, and you'll see, for
> > instance, Alan S describing how he eats his cereal for an evening snack
> > rather than first thing in the morning.
>
> No she did not tell me that, she said to eat 3 meals a day for a week
> monitor the numbers, then try eating 6 times a day for a week and
> monitor the numbers.

OK, so long as you have the numbers (including after you eat), this is a
reasonable strategy. Did she tell you when to test? Assuming she wants
you to test after meals also, it sounds like she'll go through
everything with you and make suggestions.

> I am not on medication. I am hoping to control this before it gets to
> that point.

It's definitely possible. I was diagnosed almost 10 years ago, and I've
never taken any diabetes meds.

But, everybody's diabetes is different. If my numbers deteriorate, I'll
consult with my doctor and think about medication. The important thing
is to keep my blood sugar where it should be, by whatever means
necessary.

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

Priscilla Ballou · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 34

In article ,
trish_5@msn.com wrote:

> any comments? please tell me what you think.

Oh, my God! My numbers would be through the roof on that!

Lots of wonderful green leafy or colorful veges. Fish, meat, poultry,
tofu, cheese, cream, nuts, garlic, spices, herbs, olive oil, avocados,
eggs, berries... that's the stuff I've discovered I should eat.

Sample menus:

Breakfast:
salsa and cheese 3-egg omelet
tea with a little sugar and milk

Lunch:
big salad with various vegies, hard cooked eggs, cheese, olives
whole wheat pita
strawberries
Diet Pepsi wild cherry

Dinner:
ground lamb patty
mushrooms cooked in pan drippings
big pile of steamed broccoli with fresh lemon and butter
sugar-free chocolate pudding with real whipped cream

Snacks:
olives, pickles, brie on a very few crackers, nuts

Like that. Real food, minus the white starchy stuff that gives me
nothing but carbohydrate and a spike to my blood sugar. Eating like
this got my blood sugar under control and made me feel much MUCH better!
I also lost an initial 40 lbs, although that wasn't my aim.

Keep asking questions. Your body, your science experiment!

Priscilla, T2, last A1c 5.5

Janet Wilder · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 230

trish_5@msn.com wrote:
>
> coping this word for word, if i eat three times per day.
>
> Breakfast:
>
> 3-4 carb choices 45-60 carbs per meal
> 0-2 oz of protien (2 eggs or atkins protien shake)
> 0-1 fat
>
> Snack:
> Yogurt 30 carbs
> walnuts 4 halves
>
> Lunch:
> 3-4 carb choices
> vegtable (like asparagus unlimited)
> 2-3 oz of chicken
> 1-2 fat choices
>
> Snack:
> 2 carb choices
> cottage cheese 1/2 cup
>
> Dinner:
> 3-4 carb choices
> vegtable
> 3 oz of meat
> baked potato
> 1-2 oz of butter
>
> snack:
> 1-2 carb choices
>
> any comments? please tell me what you think.
>
> Thanks
> Trish
>
>
>

FWIW I'm not a Diabetic, just a care-giver to a long-term DM, but I
wouldn't eat your diet! I'd be obese!

I would suggest that you start with 2 carb choices at each meal and
check your blood sugar 2 hours after you eat. That will give you a good
idea of how the amount of carbs are effecting you.

Try to find healthier snacks. One snack might be a carb choice of fruit,
but not more than one choice. The evening snack should contain some
peanut butter. It seems to work to prevent liver-dumping for some people.

FIND ANOTHER DIETICIAN!

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Julie Bove · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 494

wrote in message @r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...

> Im back.
> I had two appts since I was here last, one with the diabetic educator,
> and one with the
> dietician.
> The diabetic educator listened to me and just wrote all my numbers
> down from my monitor,
> and told me to eat three times a day as the dietician worked up for
> me.
> Dietician said to eat 3-4 carb choices per meal x3 , or 2 carb choices
> if i prefer x6 a day.
> You guys tell me to intake very low carbs. Now I am really confused.
> Is this old school in the diabetic world?

If you're a very large person and/or very active, this might work for you.
If you use insulin, this might work for you.

Use your meter and see what you test after eating. If your numbers are in
normal range, then fine.

I've seen three dieticians and the only time I was told to eat that many
carbs was when I was pregnant. But not that many for breakfast. Only
allowed two servings then. On a good day, I eat 10 servings of carbs per
day. That's two with breakfast, two with bedtime snack and three for lunch
and dinner. But most of my days are not good ones so I have to eat less.

Julie Bove · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 494

wrote in message @q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 20, 4:53 pm, tris...@msn.com wrote:
>> On Jul 20, 4:31 pm, Alice Faber wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > In article ,
>>
>> > tris...@msn.com wrote:
>> > > On Jul 17, 3:53 pm, Susan wrote:
>> > > > x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> > > > Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > > > Both thyroid problems and diabetes are metabolic disorders so it
>> > > > > is common
>> > > > > for one to have both problems. And if you do have thyroid
>> > > > > problems, that
>> > > > > can make diabetes more difficult to control.
>>
>> > > > Actually, both are also pituitary problems.
>>
>> > > > Susan
>>
>> > > Im back.
>> > > I had two appts since I was here last, one with the diabetic
>> > > educator,
>> > > and one with the
>> > > dietician.
>> > > The diabetic educator listened to me and just wrote all my numbers
>> > > down from my monitor,
>> > > and told me to eat three times a day as the dietician worked up for
>> > > me.
>> > > Dietician said to eat 3-4 carb choices per meal x3 , or 2 carb
>> > > choices
>> > > if i prefer x6 a day.
>> > > You guys tell me to intake very low carbs. Now I am really
>> > > confused.
>> > > Is this old school in the diabetic world?
>>
>> > Did you ask the diabetes educator would to do if you ate as the
>> > dietician suggests and your post-prandial (after meal) numbers are too
>> > high?
>>
>> > --
>> > AF
>> > "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
>> > --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball- Hide quoted
>> > text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> This is new to me, what the educator the one that should have
>> explained things to me?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> coping this word for word, if i eat three times per day.
>
> Breakfast:
>
> 3-4 carb choices 45-60 carbs per meal
> 0-2 oz of protien (2 eggs or atkins protien shake)
> 0-1 fat
>
> Snack:
> Yogurt 30 carbs
> walnuts 4 halves
>
> Lunch:
> 3-4 carb choices
> vegtable (like asparagus unlimited)
> 2-3 oz of chicken
> 1-2 fat choices
>
> Snack:
> 2 carb choices
> cottage cheese 1/2 cup
>
> Dinner:
> 3-4 carb choices
> vegtable
> 3 oz of meat
> baked potato
> 1-2 oz of butter
>
> snack:
> 1-2 carb choices
>
> any comments? please tell me what you think.

Yeah. Run away fast from that. I'll be willing to bet, and I'm not a
gambler, that breakfast will spike you very badly. And why in the world
would you need to eat between breakfast and lunch? Do you have some sort of
job that requires you to run marathons? Do you need to gain a lot of
weight?

trish_5 · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

On Jul 20, 8:04 pm, Janet Wilder wrote:
> tris...@msn.com wrote:
>
> > coping this word for word, if i eat three times per day.
>
> > Breakfast:
>
> > 3-4 carb choices 45-60 carbs per meal
> > 0-2 oz of protien (2 eggs or atkins protien shake)
> > 0-1 fat
>
> > Snack:
> > Yogurt 30 carbs
> > walnuts 4 halves
>
> > Lunch:
> > 3-4 carb choices
> > vegtable (like asparagus unlimited)
> > 2-3 oz of chicken
> > 1-2 fat choices
>
> > Snack:
> > 2 carb choices
> > cottage cheese 1/2 cup
>
> > Dinner:
> > 3-4 carb choices
> > vegtable
> > 3 oz of meat
> > baked potato
> > 1-2 oz of butter
>
> > snack:
> > 1-2 carb choices
>
> > any comments? please tell me what you think.
>
> > Thanks
> > Trish
>
> FWIW I'm not a Diabetic, just a care-giver to a long-term DM, but I
> wouldn't eat your diet! I'd be obese!
>
> I would suggest that you start with 2 carb choices at each meal and
> check your blood sugar 2 hours after you eat. That will give you a good
> idea of how the amount of carbs are effecting you.
>
> Try to find healthier snacks. One snack might be a carb choice of fruit,
> but not more than one choice. The evening snack should contain some
> peanut butter. It seems to work to prevent liver-dumping for some people.
>
> FIND ANOTHER DIETICIAN!
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
> Good Friends. Good Life- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Good Morning Everyone,
BC was 117 fasting this morning.
I had boiled egg and 2 slices of bacon , coffee for Breakfast
1 hr later my BC is 125.
I feel really weak and shaky. I am trying not to reach for any
carbs. Is this correct?

Trish

trish_5 · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

On Jul 21, 9:18 am, Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> tris...@msn.com wrote:
> > Good Morning Everyone,
> > BC was 117 fasting this morning.
> > I had boiled egg and 2 slices of bacon , coffee for Breakfast
> > 1 hr later my BC is 125.
> > I feel really weak and shaky. I am trying not to reach for any
> > carbs. Is this correct?
>
> Trish, as I said earlier, I think it's a good idea to do the carb
> cutting more gradually. In your case, I think you should eat a known
> dose of glucose, either in the form of glucose tabs or Smarties candies.
> Try 5 grams chewed very well. If that doesn't help within 15-20
> minutes, try 5 more. Don't go above the just feeling less shakey point.
>
> You can choose to ride this out, if you want to, and be prepared for a
> possibly wobbly few weeks, or you can eat a lot less carb than you were
> instructed, but a bit more than you just had for breakfast. The protein
> will convert slowly to glucose over several hours, so you'll have a
> steady supply, unlike with carbs, but when you're used to eating so much
> more sugar, it takes a while for your body to adapt to a slower source.
>
> Susan

BC 127
I am sitting this one out. I quit cleaning until i feel better. I
will take 1 g tab if it does not quit soon.
Please do not give up on me, I have read so much this week, I am
having a hard time remembering
everything. I will get this right, and I refuse to go on medication
if I can get this under control.
I am on Beta blockers, does that medication cause my body to react a
different way than if
i was not on it? I have read some things on that. I asked the Dr and
the D Educator and they
both said no. One more thing i have noticed, and maybe its my
imagination, but when I get like
this and my feet and hands start cramping up, i seem to produce so
much salavia, is that
something to do with diabetics? Dr just looks at me like im crazy.
Maybe I am or maybe
this goes back to my vitamin D being so low and my parathyroid tests
that come in low and
then normal? Anyone know?

Trish

trish_5 · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

On Jul 21, 9:27 am, Alan S wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:04:54 -0700, tris...@msn.com wrote:
> >On Jul 20, 8:04 pm, Janet Wilder wrote:
> >> tris...@msn.com wrote:
>
> >> > coping this word for word, if i eat three times per day.
>
> >> > Breakfast:
>
> >> > 3-4 carb choices 45-60 carbs per meal
> >> > 0-2 oz of protien (2 eggs or atkins protien shake)
> >> > 0-1 fat
>
> >> > Snack:
> >> > Yogurt 30 carbs
> >> > walnuts 4 halves
>
> >> > Lunch:
> >> > 3-4 carb choices
> >> > vegtable (like asparagus unlimited)
> >> > 2-3 oz of chicken
> >> > 1-2 fat choices
>
> >> > Snack:
> >> > 2 carb choices
> >> > cottage cheese 1/2 cup
>
> >> > Dinner:
> >> > 3-4 carb choices
> >> > vegtable
> >> > 3 oz of meat
> >> > baked potato
> >> > 1-2 oz of butter
>
> >> > snack:
> >> > 1-2 carb choices
>
> >> > any comments? please tell me what you think.
>
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Trish
>
> >> FWIW I'm not a Diabetic, just a care-giver to a long-term DM, but I
> >> wouldn't eat your diet! I'd be obese!
>
> >> I would suggest that you start with 2 carb choices at each meal and
> >> check your blood sugar 2 hours after you eat. That will give you a good
> >> idea of how the amount of carbs are effecting you.
>
> >> Try to find healthier snacks. One snack might be a carb choice of fruit,
> >> but not more than one choice. The evening snack should contain some
> >> peanut butter. It seems to work to prevent liver-dumping for some people.
>
> >> FIND ANOTHER DIETICIAN!
>
> >> --
> >> Janet Wilder
> >> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
> >> Good Friends. Good Life- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Good Morning Everyone,
> >BC was 117 fasting this morning.
> >I had boiled egg and 2 slices of bacon , coffee for Breakfast
> >1 hr later my BC is 125.
> >I feel really weak and shaky. I am trying not to reach for any
> >carbs. Is this correct?
>
> >Trish
>
> I'm not sure why you'd be shaky at that number - that all
> looks pretty good to me and I doubt you've been high between
> breakfast and that reading.
>
> The only reason I can suggest is that you've been high for
> far too long and your body still has to get used to more
> reasonable BG levels. If you have been following that
> ghastly menu from your dietician that's a real possibility.
>
> I presume you've checked that your meter has the right code
> or chip (depending on type) in it for your strips; that's a
> possibility, but a remote one I'd guess.
>
> I would recommend that you check BG's a little more often
> while you go through this phase, just to be sure.
>
> And congratulations on taking that step.
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
> latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforesthttp://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
> latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Good Morning Alan,
I appreciate all your advice, I have read alot of your website, and I
thank you.

I have a Accu-Check Advantage. I got it 2 months ago. I change the
chip when i start
new strips. I would hope it reads correctly. How would I know?

Trish

trish_5 · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 15

On Jul 21, 11:22 am, Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> tris...@msn.com wrote:
> > BC 127
> > I am sitting this one out. I quit cleaning until i feel better. I
> > will take 1 g tab if it does not quit soon.
> > Please do not give up on me, I have read so much this week, I am
> > having a hard time remembering
> > everything. I will get this right, and I refuse to go on medication
> > if I can get this under control.
>
> Trish, no one is going to give up on you! You might want to move this
> over to alt.support.diabetes, though. THe group we're on is a recipe
> group. Smile

>
> > I am on Beta blockers, does that medication cause my body to react a
> > different way than if
> > i was not on it?
>
> Yes, beta blockers do screw with blood glucose levels. If you must be
> on a bp drug, an ARB or ACE would be a better choice. But low carbing
> usually drops bp, too, so be watchful for lethargy and dizziness on low
> carb with a beta blocker. Discuss the impact on bg of the bb with your doc.
>
> I have read some things on that. I asked the Dr and
>
> > the D Educator and they
> > both said no.
>
> They were wrong or they were absent the day it was addressed in school.
>
> One more thing i have noticed, and maybe its my
>
> > imagination, but when I get like
> > this and my feet and hands start cramping up, i seem to produce so
> > much salavia, is that
> > something to do with diabetics?
>
> No, but I think it has to do with potassium loss and adrenal function,
> which is suppressed by insulin.
>
> > Dr just looks at me like im crazy.
>
> Osler is spinning in his grave, I'm sure.
>
> > Maybe I am or maybe
> > this goes back to my vitamin D being so low and my parathyroid tests
> > that come in low and
> > then normal? Anyone know?
>
> Trish, you need to be evaluated for pituitary adrenal function.
>
> Susan

Laughing , shows how new I am , I had no idea this was a recipe site.
Sorry everyone , I will move it over if i can figure it out.

Alan S · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 134

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:27:51 -0700, trish_5@msn.com wrote:

>
>No Susan it has made me gain weight this week, geez.
>I just read alot of the website you gave me, and I am changing over
>to what you have been telling me all week.
>Im going low carb for a week. And check them against my numbers
>I have been running. Will i see a difference in a week?
>
>Trish

Hi Trish

I've read every post in the thread. Like Cheri, words fail
me on that recommended diet. And you are already seeing the
poor results of it.

Please, please read these two links and put them into
practice:

http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
That is the best advice I received since diagosis; it
changed my life.

http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/d-day.html
That, and the pages that follow it, is how I put Jennifer's
advice into practice.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
--
I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience.
Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be
an expensive teacher.
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Priscilla Ballou · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 34

In article ,
trish_5@msn.com wrote:

> On Jul 20, 8:04 pm, Janet Wilder wrote:
> > tris...@msn.com wrote:
> >
> > > coping this word for word, if i eat three times per day.
> >
> > > Breakfast:
> >
> > > 3-4 carb choices 45-60 carbs per meal
> > > 0-2 oz of protien (2 eggs or atkins protien shake)
> > > 0-1 fat
> >
> > > Snack:
> > > Yogurt 30 carbs
> > > walnuts 4 halves
> >
> > > Lunch:
> > > 3-4 carb choices
> > > vegtable (like asparagus unlimited)
> > > 2-3 oz of chicken
> > > 1-2 fat choices
> >
> > > Snack:
> > > 2 carb choices
> > > cottage cheese 1/2 cup
> >
> > > Dinner:
> > > 3-4 carb choices
> > > vegtable
> > > 3 oz of meat
> > > baked potato
> > > 1-2 oz of butter
> >
> > > snack:
> > > 1-2 carb choices
> >
> > > any comments? please tell me what you think.
> >
> > > Thanks
> > > Trish
> >
> > FWIW I'm not a Diabetic, just a care-giver to a long-term DM, but I
> > wouldn't eat your diet! I'd be obese!
> >
> > I would suggest that you start with 2 carb choices at each meal and
> > check your blood sugar 2 hours after you eat. That will give you a good
> > idea of how the amount of carbs are effecting you.
> >
> > Try to find healthier snacks. One snack might be a carb choice of fruit,
> > but not more than one choice. The evening snack should contain some
> > peanut butter. It seems to work to prevent liver-dumping for some people.
> >
> > FIND ANOTHER DIETICIAN!
> >
> > --
> > Janet Wilder
> > Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
> > Good Friends. Good Life- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Good Morning Everyone,
> BC was 117 fasting this morning.
> I had boiled egg and 2 slices of bacon , coffee for Breakfast
> 1 hr later my BC is 125.
> I feel really weak and shaky. I am trying not to reach for any
> carbs. Is this correct?

Yup. You're going to feel "off" above normal numbers until your body is
used to living in the normal range.

Priscilla